It’s just infuriating, there is no good reason for not supporting firefox

    • qupada@kbin.social
      382·
      9 months ago

      I thought it might be sensible on Linux to use MS Edge for Teams (the PWA version).
      Nope, it’s just as shit in Microsoft’s own browser. There is apparently no saving it.

      • DreamButt@lemmy.worldEnglish
        6·
        9 months ago

        I tried the same thing and was flabbergasted at how badly optimized it is. It take ages to load in all three of the browsers I tried and it’s not even worth it since their feature set is 10 years behind the market!

    • Infernal_pizza@lemmy.worldEnglish
      7·
      9 months ago

      My favourite example of this is how it handles audio devices. Every other app just uses the default Windows audio devices, maybe with an option to change it to something else if you want, but not Teams. It has to handle the choosing of the audio device itself. I once saw this lead to the fantastic situation where the sound in Windows was working fine via someone’s USB headset, but Teams decided it wanted to use the headphone jack built into their laptop dock as it’s audio device instead (no headphones were even plugged in). We manually changed it but it kept defaulting back to the headphone jack every time the dock was disconnected and reconnected! I can’t remember what fixed it in the end, probably just a reinstall or something but it was still a stupid and easily avoidable issue.

      • mutter9355@discuss.tchncs.deEnglish
        2·
        8 months ago

        This problem also exists on the android app. When I put my ear buds in, teams somehow just refuses to switch to them. No other app has this problem, just teams.

    • ivanafterall@kbin.social
      631·
      9 months ago

      Chrome is becoming the modern Internet Explorer. “Oh, yeah, the site only really works in IE for some reason…”

      • dan@upvote.auEnglish
        81·
        9 months ago

        Chrome is the new IE in terms of support. “Best viewed in Chrome”

        Safari is the new IE in terms of weird bugs that no other browser encounters. Some of their web APIs like LocalStorage and IndexedDB still have odd quirks (but at least they’re not completely broken any more).

    • DacoTaco@lemmy.worldEnglish
      25·
      9 months ago

      Ye, i remember they mentioning this, and people i know confirm it works fine. It just doesnt work on my end. I do have firefox set up to be very private though ( no 3th party cookies and more )

    • Gork@lemm.eeEnglish
      42·
      9 months ago

      That’s gotta make the Microsoft dev team confused. How can they call out Firefox in Teams if it doesn’t even identify itself as such?

  • Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
    744·
    9 months ago

    I am one of the last to defend Microsoft but I just tried it with Firefox 118.0.1 64-Bit on Win11 22H2 22621.2134 with uBlock Origin enabled.

    Loaded a good few times but it loaded and can chat.
    Seems more like a you problem!

  • krimson@feddit.nlEnglish
    758·
    9 months ago

    Teams is a fucking joke and I hate it.

    Login loops, cookie mess, until recently calling not supported on Firefox (like what?)

    I mean it’s 2023 and you come up with this abomination, Microsoft?

    Teams should be illegal at this point.

    • DreamButt@lemmy.worldEnglish
      11·
      9 months ago

      The only reason it exists is to keep companies trapped in the MS ecosystem. They do this with all kinds of things. For instance at my work it’s required for all engineers to get Azure certified due to a deal we have with MS. They don’t care about their product. They don’t care about their users. Hell they don’t even care about their employees. It’s just B2b == money, all day every day

    • derpgon@programming.devEnglish
      71·
      9 months ago

      Can’t forget it’s just reskinned Skype for Business. It was shit back in the day, but at least everything else was shitty aswell.

      In our company we self host Rocket.Chat, and damn me if it isn’t the best thing ever. It just fucking works, flawlessly.

      • YMS@kbin.social
        6·
        9 months ago

        Microsoft Teams has a completely different technical base than Skype for Business. Other platform, other language, other tech stack, other APIs, other protocols, other features. The one that just was a reskinned something was Skype for Business, formerly known as Lync, formerly known as Office Communicator, formerly known as Windows Messenger, formerly known as Exchange Conferencing, …

      • not_woody_shaw@lemmy.worldEnglish
        1·
        9 months ago

        What was the name of that thing before they gave it the skypeful makeover and added a bunch of useless annoying features? It was actually pretty good back then. Every redesign since then it’s been getting worse and worse.

        Edit: I just remembered it was called Lync.

        • derpgon@programming.devEnglish
          1·
          9 months ago

          Oh, I don’t recognize that name. I ve only been using MST for a year now at a new job. Since I am a contractor for another company, I still use self hosted Rocket.Chat instance, with Jitsi integration so we can also do calls.

    • methodicalaspect@midwest.socialEnglish
      51·
      9 months ago

      How recently did calling become supported? About a month ago I was still unable to even log in using Firefox unless I used a user agent switcher, and even then only text-based messaging worked.

      • krimson@feddit.nlEnglish
        7·
        9 months ago

        I read somewhere Firefox now changes its user agent automatically for Teams, maybe that fixed it.

      • MaximumOverflow@lemmy.caEnglish
        46·
        9 months ago

        Oh I have it installed on both Windows 10 and Windows 11. It doesn’t work. It takes ages to load, it never updates people’s status correctly, half the time it doesn’t even log in. Why they didn’t just patch Skype instead of making that pile of garbage is beyond me.

          • MaximumOverflow@lemmy.caEnglish
            56·
            9 months ago

            Fixing the login doesn’t fix the rest of Teams’ problems. Maybe you’re the chosen one and everything works for you, but it’s not a common experience.

  • xantoxis@lemmy.worldEnglish
    5011·
    9 months ago

    ITT: pretty much everyone who actually tried it reports that OP is wrong

    Also, calling them “shitsoft” just makes you seem whiny. If you want to make a serious point about something, don’t do that.

    • Camelbeard@lemmy.worldEnglish
      41·
      9 months ago

      Teams always has been shit with Firefox, while there is no reason to be shit. Like people said higher in the comments, if you change the user agent to edge magically new features are enabled.

      Also Microsoft claimed to support Linux while in reality they made some half assed desktop client, and dropped support about a year later.

      Slack was so much better, I really really hate that our office went with teams. Also for some strange reason teams is the only “website” that seems to crash my entire laptop once in a while and its the only app that makes my phone super hot.

    • bi_tux@lemmy.worldOPEnglish
      1312·
      9 months ago

      I don’t think, that !mildlyinfuriating is for actually solving tech problems.

      It didn’t work for me and some of my friends, so I’m complaining

      • not_woody_shaw@lemmy.worldEnglish
        61·
        9 months ago

        While I agree with you that some people here seem to have the misconception that this is a place for tech support, that comma placement is… mildlyinfuriating.

    • Final Remix@lemmy.worldEnglish
      11·
      9 months ago

      Works fine for me on Firefox on Windows10 on an old thinkpad that can barely run Google Meet now.

      • RogueBanana@lemmy.zipEnglish
        3·
        9 months ago

        Spoof your browser to be a chromium sht like chrome. Let’s you join voice calls but I haven’t tested camera and screen sharing. I use chameleon addon for that.

      • DudeBoy@lemmy.worldEnglish
        2·
        9 months ago

        So far so good. :/

        Honestly the native Linux app was buggy for me and the web version is a lot more stable. Not ideal, but I suppose I should be happy the overlords even allow me to connect from a Linux machine.

        Have you tried running the windows version in wine?

  • xavier666@lemm.eeEnglish
    211·
    9 months ago

    Switch agent to Google Chrome / Chromium and things will work magically.

  • cosmictrickster@lemmy.worldEnglish
    202·
    9 months ago

    Let’s not forget that Teams also uses SharePoint as a backend to some of its functions. If ever there was a pile of shit to build on…

    • somenonewho@feddit.deEnglish
      4·
      9 months ago

      Yep. Use it at work every day (on Ubuntu). Gives you more features than the “oicial preview client” used to do (like custom video backgrounds and screen sharing on Wayland) but you can run it as a seperate app instead of just in your browser.

  • DacoTaco@lemmy.worldEnglish
    13·
    9 months ago

    It doesnt work on my systems ( firefox + windows, not linux ) either. With some user agent magic (tricking its running on safari/ios) it works… Except when you enable your camera in teams >>

  • phoenixz@lemmy.caEnglish
    143·
    9 months ago

    Shitsoft teams doesn’t work on firefox

    FTFY

    I unfortunately have to work regularly with Ms teams and it’s a gargantuan shit show that doesn’t work, period. Why anyone would want to even use this is beyond me. About 6 months ago I posted a list of over 20 bugs on Reddit in the /teams sub reddit and I just got flooded with replies like “liar” and “you suck”

    Fuck everything about sucksoft

    • Case@unilem.orgEnglish
      1·
      9 months ago

      I thought teams sucked as a user experience… my last job, well my last job I was IT. If it involved a computer I was involved.

      Anyways, administrating teams is a fucking god awful nightmare, honestly a lot of Microsoft’s eco system is awful as a sysadmin. But teams and sharepoint take the cake for being fucked.