I think it’s a bit of both, even a single great save can result in a clean sheet. Kobel for time and again has saved our asses so has MATS for barca in last couple of seasons.

Let me turn that thought around: Am I the only one who thinks goals scored are more of an indication of great offensive play rather than great scoring ability?

Let’s say a keeper faces like 10 shots a game and has to save every single one to keep his clean sheet. A striker can bottle 9 chances and just poach in one shot to score.

Ucl final of 2022 is probably the biggest example of how sometimes it’s the defence, sometimes the keeper single handedly and sometimes a combination of both

There should be another measurement than played games. As you said, a GK with bad players upfront is likely to be more in the middle of the action, hence potentially gets beaten more often.

I would love to have more context available from such stats, like how many shots on target, saves made in general or as others mentioned saved penalties.

Case in point Onana last year

yea. i almost thought that dimitrievski moved on deadline day or sth lol.

Don’t jinx us.

Very! Can Poland please give away one to other national teams in need?

For some reason Poland has seemed to generate a disproportionate number of quality keepers for a number of years now. Especially when you compare it to some of the crap you see in other positions in the national team 😂

The National Team hasn’t even called up Bulka, who is likely the future.

And they even have some good ones not on the list like grabara

Their damn good

It’s a shame you’re only allowed to have one on the pitch, otherwise we may actually have had a chance to qualify for EUROs.

Mlynarczyk started a trend for great polish goalkeepers

Dudek legacy

Polish goalkeepers are insane

You know when the Poles are in the thread because their usernames always look like a daedric summoning ritual.

Nice, Juventus and Bologna to be exact

Not his fault his defence is playing patty cakes

This is true from the perspective of ‘performance of teams in European competitions in the last 5 years’ but there are other factors that impact the inclusion or exclusion of leagues in statistics. France is a top 5 league in revenue for example, which is a fairly good proxy to measure how many people follow the league and would therefore be interested in hearing stats about it.

I personally would like all stats to include the top 7 leagues but it gets tiring to see people pretend not to understand why Ligue 1 is chosen as the 5th league ahead of Eredivisie or Primeira Liga.

Nick Pope

6 clean sheets, 2 penalties saved, finally got called up for Poland squad (as a 3rd goalkeeper tho). You should try to get him back before the price gets ridiculous.