• IndustryStandard@lemmy.world
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    5 days ago

    Has it been confirmed Russia was responsible? Humanitarian organizations have been duped into blaming the wrong perpetrator in the past.

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        You’re right, Ukraine can openly venerate Nazis while targeting Russian speakers and Roma people and Israel can massacre Palestinians at the same time!

        It’s not that two things are happening at the same time you idiot, it’s Zelensky’s attitude towards what Israel is doing at the same time (this is what the comment above expressly states). “Israel has a right to defend itself” is the vapid nonsense numerous Western powers have said to justify Israel’s genocide against the Palestinian people after their revolt against colonial occupation (which is condemned as “terrorism”), along with the “Israeli civilians” drivel and the refusal to recognize Israel’s part in killing their own people on the 7th—these are the same things Zelensky has said [1] [2].

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          Spewing some Russian propaganda here my friend. Ukraine can’t afford to take moral stands right now, they are being invaded by a murderous genocidal army at the moment.

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            Umm, wow, okay friend, these completely correct statements are actually RUSSIAN PROPAGANDA (they make Ukraine look bad). Amazing bit. Yes, not putting out public statements in favor of Israel’s genocidal campaign would really hurt their war effort against Russia. Nor could Ukraine afford to stamp out all of the Nazism in their country (they actually let it rise to new heights after Euromaidan, when Russian influence had supposedly been weakened) or end their ethnic cleansing campaign in the Donbas or else that would take attention away from the invasion that wouldn’t start for eight years.

            Calling the Russian army genocidal is actually beyond absurd. Why do you think Russia invaded Ukraine? Because “Putler wanted to conquer Europe”? The liberal worldview has absolutely zero explanatory power.

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                  Throws some “completely correct statements” and links to shady websites and then complains about thought terminating cliches… good job Ivan, you deserve extra potatoes tonight

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        You’re talking about the ten year ethnic cleansing campaign the ukranian nazis embarked on in the Donbas region, right? anakin-padme-2

        You’ll be happy to know someone stopped itlea-finger-guns

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        35k casualties with 23k being injuries, so 12,000 deaths in 2 years.

        Let alone their president wanting to be “big israel” and working with literal nazis…