Maybe the DNC should do more to appeal to them thinking-about-it

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    What’s really funny is that “Did not vote” has won basically every election in my lifetime. And yet when I decide I’m not voting for Kamala because I bit my tongue and voted for H-Dog and Joey the last two times and got screwed, its MY fault if Kopmala loses.

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    It’s funny how they talk about tankies the same way fascists talk about their enemies as both weak and strong at the same time.

    We are both an insignificant fringe that should be ignored and belittled and yet it’s important we vote because we run the risk of upending the apple cart of lesser evil by not participating.

    Are we actually that important? I don’t think so. The reality is that our criticism makes them feel bad and they don’t like that. But they don’t want to admit that they don’t have an adequate rebuttal to “genocide is bad.”

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      It’s funny how they talk about tankies the same way fascists talk about their enemies as both weak and strong at the same time.

      Because the only thing separating a liberal and a fascist is relative comfort.

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      “The people who refuse to vote for anybody if theyre committing genocide are the real violent authoritarians” has an awfully similar energy to “actually you’re the one who brought race into it by calling me racist, making you the real racist”

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    To appeal to the authoritarian tankies, the democrats would have to do things like improve democracy and not commit genocide.

    This is asking too much of liberals.

  • look, tankie. if you don’t vote for hitler, you will get turbo hitler. it’s all just hitlers and you have to vote for whichever of the hitlers we tell you, because that’s democracy.

    if you don’t use your symbolic power to keep this going, there will be consequences… we have hitlers you cannot imagine in the pipeline.

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    maybe-later-honey: “We kowtowed to you tankies when SCOTUS legalized gay marriage in 2015 and then we lost to Trump a year after! Coincidence? If we listen to you, we’ll just scare away the working class!”

    He then goes on to explain that he totally agrees with us, but that literally everyone is too stupid to understand that it’s bad to be racist, so we have to be racist to win the election

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      They just have to be marginally less shit than conservatives and they’ll always get votes

      “They support genocide!” But but but but conservatives will be happy about it while democrats are sad

      “They only hurt the poor” But but but but conservatives will be happy to cut their benefits MORE

      “They haven’t done anything about police or gun reform” But but but but conservatives will be happy to give cops more money than liberals did and conservatives own more guns and and and

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        “I’m hungry”
        “But I just gave you a piece of bread yesterday!”
        “I need a little more than that to survive.”
        “Trump wouldn’t have given you any bread. You should be happy with the piece I gave you!”
        “But human nutritional-”
        “NO BREAD NO BREAD THEY’RE EATING CATS AND DOGS”

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    I drove myself mad last night reading some jackass thread of liberals still invoking 2016, in this particularly gross case, to blame the left (and anyone else who they thought didn’t support Clinton) for the state-murder of Marcellus Williams.

    Like jesus fucking Christ, not only is that vile and nonsensical, but it’s stupid in any practical sense not to do something to win the votes of these people who you (wrongly) think cost you everything.

    Act like you’re trying to build and maintain a relationship where the other person has the freedom to leave and isn’t a goddamn slave to you!

    Pretend that you believe in democracy instead of acting entitled to people’s support when you offer them nothing but blame when an election goes badly for you!

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    According to the adults in the room, tankies are both completely irrelevant (Overton window Overton window Overton window) and capable of influencing the election of a world superpower.

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