• mercphilby@discuss.online
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    2 days ago

    I mean, today is stolen holiday, and Jesus never existed. So, it’s just another shitty day in Bethlehem because a bunch of rich cunts want to kill people.

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        2 hours ago

        Jesus was not a real person. Jesus is as real as Noah and his ark. As Lot and his horny daughters. It’s all a collection of oral tales that have been told in many cultures. There may have been “Jesus Like” figures. And, many may have even taken on his name. It’s a common name.

        It becomes so obvious when you read how many similar tales exist: Horus, Mithras, Krishna, Buddha, Zoroaster, Dionysus, Osiris, Heracles, Tammuz, Attis.

        In 2000 years, expect Capital America to have a following of zealots.

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            1 day ago

            Everyone knows Jesus was not born on December 25th, and yeah, it was stolen. I can make a YouTube video too. 🙄

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              That doesn’t make it a stolen pagan holiday. Are you a professor of Roman art and Archeology like Steven Hijmans, one of the scholars cited in the video? The medium of presentation doesn’t make the information invalid.

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                It’s far from cut and dry, and there are multiple schools of thought and conflicting interpretations. Steven Hijmans is a revisionist. Traditionally, it’s indeed believed that it was originally a pagan holiday in celebration of Sol Invictus.

                Steven Hijmans presents an alternative interpretation of the various texts that challenges this understanding. He may or may not be correct, but nevertheless, one should not assume that his views reflect a consensus among historians.

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                  Thank you for engaging with the sources I was providing and not dismissing them outright. I was in the Christmas is pagan camp for a while and found the idea appealing because I dislike how Christianity homogenized everything and stomped out a bunch of unique cultures that we’ll likely never know about.

                  Then I started seeing some experts in the field trying to dispel the idea and I started to have doubts. Now I think Christmas was created independently and then it absorbed local customs as Christianity spread (that’s just my history enthusiast opinion though).

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                1 day ago

                No scholars have ever gotten it wrong, or argued for something in favor of what their beliefs are, despite it being a well documented topic.