• magoosh@feddit.nl
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    9 months ago

    Did I misunderstand? A house should not be called house? A rock is not a rock?

      • Maven (famous)@lemmy.worldOP
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        8 months ago

        The video is mostly aimed at a casual audience that doesn’t know callouts at all. These are standard for comp players but would be considered silly to someone who has only played 24/7 harvest for the last 4 months.

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          8 months ago

          well no it’s aimed at competitive players, not only is the video on the youtube channel for RGL but features the competitive versions of maps it’s just that shit house, toxic and pubspot are standard callouts, at least in Australia where I’m from

            • neco arc@lemmy.worldM
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              8 months ago

              non competitive players rarely use callouts? also outside of competitive you very rarely see the maps vigil and ashville which are featured in this map, pretty sure the video is just being used to showcase “odd” callouts that they’ve heard, the casual audience wouldn’t normally know what the actual callouts are supposed to be

              • Maven (famous)@lemmy.worldOP
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                8 months ago

                For context here: I made the video and am the lead video editor for RGL so I have a shocking amount of thoughts for a shit post that took about 15 minutes to make on my lunch break.

                And you’re right. Casual players don’t use callouts. Similarly, I don’t play CS and yet I watch a lot of counter strike videos for some reason. Never even casts of the match but a lot of like smoke line up videos and all of 3kliks and so on. Same thing with smash and some of those YouTubers. You don’t need advanced knowledge to find the details of a community interesting.

                To add to that, you don’t really need to know the normal callouts (or even play tf2) to understand that 9 objects all named “house” is a bit ridiculous when placed back to back. Add to that the confusion based around why a bridge would be called “Japan” and most people’s first ever viewing of Dogbread and you have a final product that ultimately went viral for a reason. It’s funny to everyone, comp and otherwise, for a different reason.

                To a competitive player, pub spot is a completely normal callout. A casual player will just be like “yeah that’s the pub spot” (confirmed by someone commenting that they agree with that callout despite never playing comp). Similarly, shit house. Not inherently funny on its own but it is funny with the contrast of being put immediately after the word House 9 times in a row.

                I do my best to make videos ABOUT competitive without making them exclusively FOR competitive players. I’m definitely not perfect yet but hey I also expected this video to bomb and it’s quickly becoming the channel’s most popular video ever despite me also originally thinking it would get 200 views and never watched again so clearly in that respect I have no idea what I’m talking about.

                All in all, I hope you enjoyed the video at the very least and sorry for the long essay.

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                  8 months ago

                  ah right, got confused since I thought it implied that the callouts toxic, pubspot and shithouse were like weird alternatives to something else

    • Maven (famous)@lemmy.worldOP
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      9 months ago

      There’s an extremely popular callout on the map called “China” that all of English speaking tf2 agreed on. The callouts here titled “Japan” is a small isolated bit of land a short distance away from “China” just like Japan is actually a small isolated bit of land a short distance away from the real China.

      The same channel also made a video on that topic as well actually: https://youtu.be/Hv9L3-it01g