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  • I played the beta. I wouldnt call it a good game but it was a game that i enjoyed playing. Maybe i liked it because ever since i was a kid, i was always fascinated by mad max/waterworld. Having your own vehicle, roaming a hostile desert(or sea).

    You have a customizable ship, you can build it how you want. And you have a base that can be built and upgraded. And a giant open world with a forgetful story and generic npc. The gameplay was ok, though the world of warships has infinitely superior naval combat. I think it is using similar to war thunder naval combat(same publisher), which is a bit too arcadey for my taste(not that world of warships is a simulator, but it is a more immersive experience).


  • Turkey and Greece exchanged each other’s ethnicities post WWI and War for Turkish independence, ethnic cleansing but not necessarily genocidal.

    Yet for some reason there are 0 greeks in Turkey atm and 200k muslims in Greece, most of which selfidentify as ethnic turks. I wonder what happened, i guess we will never know. Oh wait, we do.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Istanbul_pogrom

    Also weirdly enough, sanctioned by international mediation because shit was weird back then

    It’s not weird, greeks and turks have murdered shitload of each others civilians.

    After Greece’s “Great Idea” plan(conquering Western Turkey) got crashed, Greece wanted to protect the surviving greeks in Turkey from further reprisals. So both sides decided to partially exchange populations while protecting the remaining minorities. Eventually(30 years later) Turkey decided they didnt want any greeks left in Turkey and violated the deal. Greece on the other hand just kept being shitty to ethnic turks living in Greece but at least they are mostly ok now.

    Most greeks are aware of civilian turks getting murdered. I am not so sure turks are aware of the civilian greeks slaughtered. This “exchange” ended 3000+ year of continuous presence(with majority or almost majority percentages) of ethnic greeks in Anatolia(Western Turkey).


  • They are not genociding, they are just removing palestinians from areas, they are ethnic cleansing those areas. This is a pretty standard nation building tactic, except most, european, nations did it in the past, while Israel is doing it now. Azerbaijan did it too with their armenian enclave in Nagorno Karabakh. The armenians “voluntarily” left the region and now there are basically 0 armenians there.

    Genocide focuses more on the destruction of people.
















  • Some notes/corrections

    1. It kinda tries to tie the creation of Turkey with the genocide of armenians. And while it isnt completely wrong, the implied timeline and involvement of Ataturk is wrong.

    2. The far right greekcypriot organization EOKA B, overthrew the democratically elected, greekcypriot government of Cyprus. Their objective was unification with Greece, something that even the democratically elected government supported a few years ago but then stopped pursuing because of international pressure. So the dictatorship in Greece decided to overthrew the cypriot government in order to execute that initial plan(also we cant have anyone even slightly left leaning governing Cyprus, that would be absurd, fuck democracy).

    EOKA B did some light ethnic cleansing of turkcyprtiots. Turkey was a guarantee nation of the independence treaty of Cyprus(along with Greece) and you could make a legal case that this gave them the right to intervene and stop the ethnic cleansing. This is what most turks believe happened. You could even say that the turks were morally obligated to intervene.

    What many turks ignore was that Turkey invaded Cyprus twice. The first invasion, occupied 4% of Cyprus. This set in motion a series of events which extremely quickly led to the collapse of the dictatorship in Greece and their puppet EOKA B in Cyprus. Democracy was returning to both Greece and Cyprus. So there wouldnt be a unification or ethnic cleansing anymore. These events took place within weeks/months.

    Of course, there were still issues to be solved regarding Cyprus(turkcypriots having veto power, etc) but at least the immediate threat of violence mostly ended there. Diplomatic talks were taking place.

    Turkey seeing that their “opportunity window” was closing(they wouldnt have a reason to invade/occupy Cyprus anymore), they decided to initiate the second invasion, which lead to the occupation of 40% of Cyprus.

    And this is when everyone lost their shit. If you are wondering why only Turkey recognizes Northern Cyprus and why “everyone hates Turkey, even though Turkey only wanted to protect ethnic turks”, this is why. Because at that point, literally everything was going great FOR EVERYONE but Turkey decided “no, fuck you, i want a better hand in the following negotiations and i am willing to use military force”.


    Turkey is not a normal country. A normal country would try to negotiate about Kasterlorizo(greek island)'s insanely large EEZ shadow, which i agree is kinda absurd. But Turkey literally went “you know what? Fuck islands, i’ll make my own international laws with hookers and oil. Islands dont deserve any EEZ, in fact half of Greece should be part of Turkey’s EEZ”.

    Erdogan is wannabe Putin and the russian invasion of Ukraine is one of the best things that could have happened to Greece. It showed that no matter the integration and the cost, authoritarians are gonna authoritarian because they perceive cooperation as weakness. They think everyone but them is soft and weak and once they show their true power level(go full retard), noone will be able to defend against them.

    Greece was one of the biggest proponents of Turkey’s EU ascension. Greece was even willing to throw Cyprus under the bus just to normalize the relation with Turkey. Greece supported the UN’s proposal for Cyprus, even though it was clearly disadvantageous because the expectation was that if Turkey becomes a “normal” country, the negative parts of the plan wouldnt be relevant, Cyprus could be like Belgium. Fortunately the greekcypriots voted against that plan.

    Hopefully, the West’s strong reaction to the ukranian invasion should discourage Erdogan from doing anything stupid. And please, dont tell me about the millions of “liberal” turks who would strongly oppose that, i dont care. The same way ukranians dont care about the millions of “liberal” russians living in Moscow and St Petersburg. They dont have any political or military power to do anything. They protested at the start, got beaten up and imprisoned and accused as traitors of the nation. If shit goes down, i expect the same thing to happen to “liberal” turks.

    Opposition to things is not that relevant in authoritarian states. Turkey isnt as authoritarian as Russia, at least not yet but still. Ultimately, even Erdogan’s opposition is pretty hawkish.





  • NATO’s is not going to be part of Turkey’s geopolitical schemes. Nukes are needed in order to be on an even footing with the other regional powers(which will also have nukes). Even if Saudi Arabia/Iran never intend to nuke Turkey, they will be at an advantage.

    Hard power translates to soft power. And if your regional opponents have nukes and you dont have nukes, you will be at a significant soft power disadvantage.

    Btw Turkey is building its first nuclear power plant, with help from Russia. Saudi Arabia also intends to build nuclear power plants soon. Thats the first step to creating a nuclear weapon.



  • Pretty sure there are NATO nukes sitting in Turkey already

    Those are US controlled nukes. And the US doesnt have the best relation with Turkey atm. They are there now, gone tomorrow. Turkey cant rely on american nukes. If other regional powers have nukes, they need to have nukes. And if Turkey has nukes, then Greece needs to have nukes for selfprotection.

    Turkey gets to wave their dicks around and make demands at the big boy table despite being a complete joke of a country.

    They have the 2nd biggest military in NATO, after the US, an immensely important geographical location and they are a regional power(along with Iran and Saudi Arabia).







  • They can withdraw, delay, mobilize more people, wait for the West to get tired, Trump to get elected, etc.

    Ukraine needs constant supply of money and equipment from the West in order to survive. Their economy is fucked and they cant really produce the military equipment needed to fight Russia. What will happen if Trump gets elected? Or Le Pen? Or if opposition parties in the West, start using the cost of the war for propaganda?