This is what I’m visualizing:
A liquid ocean pressed against the inner side of Europa’s ice crust, during high tide. Then the tide shifts and the water rushes away, leaving a gigantic hollow shell high above the ocean’s surface, like a vast dome stretching towards the horizon in all directions, in total darkness.

Meanwhile, the tidal bulge has rushed halfway across the hemisphere, the water is now pressing against the ice crust there.

If the Jovian system’s tidal forces can stretch and knead Io’s mantle like silly putty, its’ rocky surface rising and falling as much as 100 meters (about 300 feet) each tidal cycle… I can’t even imagine how violently the water may slosh under Europa’s ice crust.

One final note: considering that Europa is tidally locked with Jupiter, and it is Ganymede and Callisto that can pull in other directions, how long are the tidal cycles there? The principle is like on Earth, but there are extra gears in the mechanism, so to speak, different high and low tides may vary widely between each other.

  • shadsEnglish
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    2 days ago

    I’m going to express some solidarity with OP here. I feel like there is some unconscious bias affecting their visualisation, in no small part due to my first blush reaction being “that kinda makes sense”. On Earth at sea level we are used to ice being rigid enough that we don’t expect tidal forces to distort it at the same rate as it affects neighbouring water, however as OP pointed out tidal forces in the Jovian system are colossal compared to what we are familiar with.

    We also expect our atmosphere to rush in to fill any available space, even though that’s only true at surface level (give or take a few meters) its counter intuitive to think about different paradigms of atmosphere if you haven’t trained those reflexes.

    Its kinda like the hottest parts of he Earths core being hotter than a large amount of the surface of he sun. That boggles my mind, but once I understood the caveats of that statement and the science involved it made a lot more sense, even if it wasn’t intuitive.

    • niktemadur@lemmy.worldOPEnglish
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      1 day ago

      tidal forces in the Jovian system are colossal compared to what we are familiar with

      I’m also considering Europa’s ice shell being kilometers thick. In our Arctic Ocean, the ice is somewhere around 10 meters (30 feet) on average, less in many spots.
      But if the Europan ice shell goes up and down, just imagine the stresses and forces, the loud noise and rumbling that kind of movement would make.