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    • Like a true loser the US and UK will make it seem like they left of their own accord.
    • Half of Ukraine will be a Russian-controlled oblast.
    • Europe moves on, and increasingly allies with China and Russia over the US, and accepts the new oblast.
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      Like a true loser the US and UK will make it seem like they left of their own accord.

      If Vietnam is any indication, they will pretend they left of their own accord, but will also perpetrate a stab-in-the back myth: “those damn tankies and Russia dupes sold out America and our Ukrainian allies!” Eventually, the war will be impossible to discuss, because the only accepted narrative will be that we won and lost at the same time.

      Doublethink, one might even call it.

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          Yep, that’s exactly what the official narrative on Vietnam is. It’s ironic, because “lack of support” in historical context means “the US public stopped being keen on the war once they realized that they, or their sons, husbands, boyfriends, etc., could be sent to die halfway across the world.” Isn’t agitating for your own interests what people are supposed to do in a liberal democracy, at least in theory and according to the propaganda?

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            Isn’t agitating for your own interests what people are supposed to do in a liberal democracy, at least in theory and according to the propaganda?

            Unfortunately, the only people on the right of Stalin that still remember that are libertarians, and they don’t believe in any democracy anyway because egoism, Ayn Rand etc. For the rest, democracy is about Doing The Right Thing, as media tell them.

            Oh and of course the people who dictate those Right Things, that is the lobby groups.