Gov. Kathy Hochul and other leading Democrats blasted the rally as “abhorrent and morally repugnant.”

A pro-Palestinian rally Sunday in Times Square endorsed by the city chapter of the Democratic Socialists of America ensnared prominent party members amid widespread condemnation of the event.

Gov. Kathy Hochul and other leading Democrats blasted the rally as “abhorrent and morally repugnant” and drew a dividing line with far-left members of the party — including New York Reps. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez and Jamaal Bowman, who denounced the attacks and called for a ceasefire but didn’t take a stand on the rally.

“I condemn Hamas’ attack in the strongest possible terms,” Ocasio-Cortez said in a statement. “No child and family should ever endure this kind of violence and fear, and this violence will not solve the ongoing oppression and occupation in the region. An immediate ceasefire and de-escalation is urgently needed to save lives.”

  • S_204@lemmy.worldEnglish
    3117·
    1 year ago

    Threads like this always blow my mind. People supporting Hamas here, you realize they’re the same as Isis right?

    They’re literally dragging women thru the streets raping them, while people stand by and cheer. They’re targeting women and children in the streets, non combatants. They’re taking hostages as human shields and bragging about it.

    Can people really support this? I can’t support many of the actions of the Israeli government, but this is quite clearly not a case of both sides being the same and Hamas is the one making that abundantly clear with their horrific actions.

    • TechyDad@lemmy.world
      304·
      1 year ago

      And you can support the plight of the Palestinians without supporting Hamas. The Palestinians elected Hamas in 2006, but since then Hamas has cancelled elections.

      Imagine if Trump decided to cancel the 2020 elections (he wouldn’t have the power to do so under our political system, but just assume he found a way). Would the fact that he was elected in 2016 mean that he was still the legitimate political leader in 2023 having cancelled elections? Of course not.

      Hamas’ leaders live in luxury outside of the Israel/Gaza Strip/West Bank area. (I believe they’re in Qatar.) They don’t care if the Palestinian people suffer and die as long as they can blame it on the Israelis and spin it into more attacks on Israel.

      Hamas needs to go not just for Israel’s sake, but for the sake of the Palestinian people.

      • S_204@lemmy.worldEnglish
        1219·
        1 year ago

        I’ll agree with you while pointing out that Hamas has over 75% approval ratings in the strip.

        People are in the streets cheering for the rape and murder of hostages. Not a few people, thousands of them.

        Don’t ignore this reality when forming your thoughts.

        • Shadywack@lemmy.worldEnglish
          26·
          1 year ago

          Pretty fucking rich for a terrorist organization that will summarily execute those in its territory that don’t support it. Maybe you shouldn’t ignore that insane batshit crazy reality when forming your absurd psychotic thoughts.

      • mwguy@infosec.pub
        83·
        1 year ago

        That’s not the only difference. I distinctly don’t remember a time where Israeli soldiers dragged slaves through Tel Aviv to the cheers of a Jewish population.

        • KevonLooney@lemm.ee
          42·
          1 year ago

          I don’t know of any “good actors” in Middle East politics. The state of Israel was basically founded on genocide:

          https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1948_Palestinian_expulsion_and_flight

          In 1948 more than 700,000 Palestinian Arabs – about half of prewar Palestine’s Arab population – fled from their homes or were expelled by Zionist militias,[1][2][3][4][5][6][7][8] during the 1948 Palestine war.[9] The exodus was a central component of the fracturing, dispossession and displacement of Palestinian society, known as the Nakba,[10][11] in which between 400 and 600 Palestinian villages were destroyed, village wells were poisoned in a biological warfare programme and properties were looted to prevent Palestinian refugees from returning

          • mwguy@infosec.pub
            33·
            1 year ago

            Ya 75 years ago shit went down. Then they fought for 20 years and 50 years ago cease fire lines were drawn and peace lines followed. 2-3 generations have happened since the conflict ended. They’re not going anywhere on either side.

            Now you have one side literally enslaving and raping civilians from the other side while demanding genocide and another side that has trouble figuring out how to respond to rockets fired from hospitals and schools.

            No modern country isn’t built on Genocide. Heck some of my ancestors were only where they were because of Jackson and the trail of tears. But let’s be clear, everybody would condem me if I advocated for a genocide in Georgia so my surviving kinfolk could reclaim their homeland. And the same principle exists in Palestine.

      • mwguy@infosec.pub
        33·
        1 year ago

        The West Bank isn’t attacking Israel, Gaza is. There’s no Jewish settlers in the Gaza strip.

      • S_204@lemmy.worldEnglish
        1111·
        1 year ago

        I’m not finding women being raped in the streets there? I’m not finding kids being gunned down in the streets, can you show me where the Israelis did that here?

        They are not nearly the same even with your false equivalence.

        • Dkarma@lemmy.world
          1011·
          1 year ago

          Yes I can show u how theyve killed kids and entire families killed and their homes destroyed and land taken. Google Israeli soldier murders and see what u get.

          Are u really trying to argue Israel is the good guy here? Lol

          • ViewSonik@lemmy.world
            77·
            1 year ago

            A massive terrorist operation happens two days ago and you are over here defending those responsible, as if they had a reason to kill innocent people. Cmon man… these people are taking hostages and killing children. I’m going to block you man you are a disgusting human being.