• Neuromancer@lemm.ee
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    9 months ago

    I think it’s weird how we use terms like indigenous culture. Western culture is indigenous to the west.

    It’s weird how the whole noble savage myth just keeps on trucking

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      9 months ago

      Frankly if argue that grouping all the different varied cultures under the simple term “western culture” is equally reductive and unproductive. There is no single “Western Culture” just as there’s no single “indigenous culture”

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        9 months ago

        So I guess the white savior can stop saving, the noble savage can stop being noble and we can all chill, just like the meme suggests.

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      9 months ago

      “Western culture” isn’t even universal in Europe. Sami and several peoples around Russia are quite distinct from anything rooted in the Roman empire. Many of them don’t subscribe to any of the Abrahamic faiths, while others only converted to Christianity in the last few hundred years.

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        9 months ago

        That’s a group I don’t know much about. I only heard about them more recently.

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      9 months ago

      Western culture is indigenous to the west.

      Europe’s culture has developed from Christian Roman culture after the Roman Empire conquered most of the continent. The indiginous cultures and religions of mainland Europe were destroyed by the Romans and the Roman-influenced kingdoms springing up after Romes demise.
      The culture resulting from that was exported to Britain with the Norman conquest, and that new British culture was exported to the US and other “Western” nations through colonialism.

      The indiginous “western” culture doesn’t exist anymore.

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        9 months ago

        Huh guess my culture doesn’t exist I’ll be sure to tell everyone on the reservation.

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        9 months ago

        The indiginous cultures and religions of mainland Europe were destroyed by the Romans and the Roman-influenced kingdoms springing up after Romes demise.

        Okay, by that reasoning then the indigenous cultures of Australia, the Americas, the Caribbean, Pacific islands, etc were destroyed by European empires/colonization and thus also don’t exist anymore.

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        You give the Romans way too much credit. They didn’t even manage to export their style of music and had their tradition supplanted by the rest of Europe: Previously they were part of the Mediterranean tradition (which nowadays people recognise as oriental, definitely a misnomer), have a listen. Nowadays they have just as much as an allergy to flourishes as much of the rest of the continent (modulo Greece but also Spain, also at least parts of the Balkan)

        …and this is just to serve as an example.