WSJ having a normal one.

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    It’s neat how they can speak for us in corporate media, where we will never, ever be allowed to speak for ourselves.

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    The left can’t behold Israel’s prosperity without concluding that the Jews have stolen their wealth from their neighbors.

    What’s that? You think theft is bad? Well have you considered that we made a lot of money off of stealing smuglord

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      Proceed to ignore that 90% of the criticism addressed to Isn’treal is about settler colonialism and genocide

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    It’s not anti-semitic to criticize Israel any more than it’s anti-christian to criticize the Republican party. Both institutions are unholy perversions of spirituality.

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      The FBI : hey, let’s call these black leaders “black messiahs”, and try to kill as many of them as possible. Killing the modern equivalents of Jesus and Moses, trying to free their people from enslavement and oppression, is very christian.

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          While that strain of thought is definitely present in the minds of a lot of white evangelical christians, etc, I’m not convinced that all these secular people are doing settler colonialism for religious reasons. These are not the crusades. It seems to me that the Palestinians have stuff they want, namely land, and they want to take it from them. That, and the west wants a country that doubles as a military base in that strategically significant part of the world.

          I think framing this as a religious conflict really misses the essence of how fascism works. Think of manifest destiny. It doesn’t really matter if God thinks white settlers should kill every Indian from coast to coast. It’s something they already wanted to do, and the religious component is a half-baked justification. Whether or not people believe that nonsense is basically irrelevant.

          I’m just not sure that concept is on the minds of many settlers is all.

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            I know, it’s not a simple religious conflict. There are Jewish and Christian Palestinians and most “Israelis” don’t care much for what the actual Torah says. But, it’s just undeniable that “Israel” is made to be a Jewish ethnostate. Regardless of if you practice or not they want as many Euros with Jewish blood to join the colonizing.

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    It can’t be that people genuinely oppose an apartheid ethnostate, it must be those damn antisemetic bolsheviks spreading their antisocial propaganda to weaken our great government, without which we would surely fall to the savage hordes outside the walls. If you question any of this, you are a fascistterrorist.

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    It must have taken Barton Swaim a Herculean amount of strength to resist mentioning On the Jewish Question, that piece largely irrelevant to scientific socialism that antisocialists looooove bringing up over and over again.

    Anyway, I don’t see the need in addressing this crap point by point since almost any of us could do it if we had the time, patience, or interest in doing so. Unfalsifiable assertions, huge chunks of context missing (hey Barton, what happened to all of those Arabs in 1948?), begging the question, outright misinformation—it’s not that responding would be hard, it would just be too time‐consuming and unrewarding to put in the effort. That said, it is worth using this moment as an opportunity to remind people whence the neocolony received so much of its early funding:

    Indeed, prior to [1948], the Haavara transfer was a huge booster for the Zionist economy in Palestine. Zionist sources speak of a sum of 139.6 million Reichmarks — an enormous sum for that time being transferred from [the Third Reich] to [the occupation of] Palestine.43 Another source gives the amount transferred as eight million pounds sterling[.]44 The capitalist Zionist economy thus grew. It was not a coincidence that the most important projects in [the neocolony] were founded or directed by emigrants from [the Third Reich].

    (Source.)

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      On the Jewish Question, that piece largely irrelevant to scientific socialism that antisocialists looooove bringing up over and over again.

      Based on Roderick Day’s interpretation of the text it seems to really hold up. Marx is saying the sickness anti-semites ascribe to the Jews and actually dominant throughout capitalist society, regardless of religion.

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        And Marx was fairly young when he wrote it. Most of the more regrettable language in it can safely be attributed to a young radical reacting against his background, the way baby socialists from the American Bible Belt lean hard into the athiesm part of historical communism.