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        While I personally don’t, the difference between this and that is that most people here, together as a community, have decided, again together, that they don’t want to federate with Meta apps because of a long history of privacy and other abuses.

        That’s not the same thing as another billionaire pissed off because they are doing exactly what capitalism is “supposed to do”

        Do better or die is the whole philosophy no?

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            Oh boy, everyone should tell those Indian slaves in Dubai. They can’t hold you prisoner guys, it’s not valid if it’s not voluntary, so you can just go home. The capitalists say it’s okay…wait, what? Oh! it was the capitalists who put them there.

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                  From wikipedia:

                  Capitalism is an economic system based on the private ownership of the means of production and their operation for profit.[1][2][3][4] Central characteristics of capitalism include capital accumulation, competitive markets, price systems, private property, property rights recognition, voluntary exchange, and wage labor.

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          You don’t see the conflict?

          Here it’s a case of hypocrisy, as it’s a conflict between berating someone else for some behavior, and engaging in it ourselves.

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            You’re making a false equivalence. Musk is scared about losing more of his money. People here seemingly don’t like Meta and don’t want it to infest lemmy. Those aren’t even close to being the same.

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              Or, Musk’s actions could be in line with protecting free speech. I mean, that’s the fear we have of Meta here: that it will destroy this space and silence voices.

              So if (a) Musk claims he’s protecting free speech, and then (b) takes actions consistent with that view, then there’s no opening to make an argument of the form “Must claims X but does Y”, when Y could be interpreted as a manifestation of goal X.

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                I thought the law suit was centered around the fact that Twitter shit canned a bunch of programmers, and meta picked them up to make threads. So elon is claiming intellectual property theft.

                At no point did they mention that they were trying to save free speech. That wouldn’t make sense.

                I would hope elon loses this suit. You can’t force an employee you fired into a non disclosure agreement and then just not pay them wile locking them out of their field of work for 10 years.

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                  Yeah I don’t think he has a case either. I’m talking about the perceived motivations when his actions are consistent with his stated motivations (for running twitter, the ones mentioned in the comment thread I responded to), as evidenced by our own shared pairing of stated motivations and actions.

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    Lmfao. Well, thanks for the free PR, I’m sure, because some poor secretary in his office knows there isn’t jack shit they can sue over.

    Not that I’m ever going to pretend to like Meta, but having competition is supposed to be the definition of his precious free market. There’s even rules and everything about monopolies. Can’t take issue with that unless he’s ready to declare himself not a capitalist.

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      You don’t really need a good argument to file a lawsuit. And Musk seems petty and short-sighted enough to try it.

      I’m not particularly fond of either, so I’m gonna make some popcorn and hope this blows up into the biggest shit storm possible.

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    Maybe that was their game with the federation stuff. “Hey we didn’t start this, we were just following suit on this open source project”. Anyway this logic wouldn’t fly in any court, they can’t have a copyright on text-based social media. They can only own their branding. Musk is just throwing a hissy fit again

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      I think Elon is trying to say they’re stealing IP because lots of the Twitter employees he fired went to work on Threads. This is probably where the fediverse stuff comes in clutch, as they’re just implementing ActivityPub, so it’s not like it’s industry secrets or anything.

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    Zucks hair looks like those tiktok vids of guys who’s baber fucked their haircut up.