Herders report violence driving them from their homes in accelerating, aggressive and highly effective campaign

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      You can’t easily point on who‘s the good and who’s the bad.

      Hint: It’s always the side perpetrating genocidal settler-colonialism that’s the bad-der one (by far), okay?

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        Okay understood. You might have read that I excluded those with an agenda.

        I guess it doesn’t fit in a yes/no thinking if there‘s a third option.

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            Both sides Israeli and Palestini have blood on their hands. There is no good one and there is no one who has the natural right for the land. It’s probably both.

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              Bullcrap. Since when does genocidal European colonial-settler states have “natural rights” to the land the are perpetrating genocide upon?

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      It’s not hard to understand which party is settlers committing genocide, and which party isn’t.

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      It is complex and yet it isn’t. There are understandable psychological and historical causes for the current state. It is not black and white. But nothing is. We just want to make things to fit nice boxes.

      If you want to understand it, you need to understand radicalization and how it applies to MENA including Israel. Actions do not come from the vacuum and people are messy. Every person has an agenda.

      At the same time, in this specific situation, there are what according to well-established parameters amount to war crimes and crimes against humanity. While there is terrorism committed by Palestinian groups, these crimes are largely committed by Israel. It might be that if the power imbalance were a little less we would see similar actions from the Palestinian state. But it is not.

      Just in the last week, we have seen apartheid, ethnic cleansing, what could be genocide, collective punishment, embargo and cutting vital supplies to the area you are occupying. This list is not exhaustive. This is univocally wrong.

      The most complex part is not understanding it. The most complex part is solving it.

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        So, you say something like terrorists take hostages and kill innocent people. Run away and hide between innocent people - use them as shields. If some reaction of the attacked side happen, those attackers are to blame? That’s too black/white for my opinion.

        Anyway, social media isn’t good for nuanced discussions, it’s build for emotional reactions. It’s too complex. I‘m out of this thread.