It should come as no surprise that the lemmy.ml admin team took about 2 minutes to decide to pre-emptively block threats / Meta. Their transparent and opportunistic scheme to commodify the fediverse and it’s users will not be allowed to proceed.
We strongly encourage other instance administrators to do the same, given the grave threat they pose to the fediverse.
YOUR MOVE LEMMY.WORLD
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People left reddit because of corporate f*ckery, and some of them are now making excuses for meta?? What kind of mental gymnastics is this?
A lot of people left Reddit because it was a drowning ship. They didn’t flock to the fediverse because of what it stands for, and they’ll happily bounce over to the next popular corporate run data farm at their earliest convenience.
I agree with your sentiment, however I don’t think Reddit is a sinking ship. It sucks, me and many other people are angry with them, some of us left but it’s not nearly enough to make them actually sink. Reddit is too recognizable a brand.
They’re too big to fail.It’s too big to fail in the same way Facebook is. It’s inundated with normies. The actual interesting content and creators and worthwhile discussion will find a new home.
Good riddance if they want that over this.
Unfortunately, you’re not incorrect. They’re just sheeple.
This - I don’t care much about “corporate fuckery” in this context. The reason I left Reddit is that losing Apollo was sufficiently painful to prompt me to try something else. Honestly the pervasive anti-capitalist and FOSS-worshiping sentiments here are kind of off-putting.
The reason we lost Apollo and others is exactly what I meant by “corporate fuckery”. I respect that you see “anti-capitalist and FOSS-worshipping sentiments” off-putting, they’re definitely pervasive in the community, and I personally vibe with that. because it’s all cause-and-effect. What happened with Reddit isn’t one company being shitty to their userbase while seeking profit. It’s a pattern. That’s the system working correctly. The “anti-capitalist and FOSS-worshipping sentiments” are coming from people seeing that and taking a stance. Is reddit taking a stance against their users? Fine, we’re gonna make our own reddit with blackjack et cetera and so on.
If you’re against foss go to adobe, they have subscriptions (finance capitalism, rent seeking)
I’m not anti-FOSS but I do believe there’s a place for both it and paid/closed-source software to coexist. I don’t think proprietary software is inherently evil and am fine paying for it if I get a corresponding amount of value from its use.
It’s just a typical day on the internet, honestly.
It’s what is known as dipshittery, and many people suffer from it.
I would like to also add this argument into the discussion, since I’ve seen a lot of people who are voting for federating with meta, with the argument that defederating just because we don’t like someone goes against the idea of Fediverse, and interconnected network of diverse servers that is should inclusive and allows people to connect.
It’s quite the contrary - allowing Meta in goes directly against the idea of Fediverse, and we should fight it as much as possible.
This is a literal quote from the main header on https://www.fediverse.to/
The fediverse is a collection of community-owned, ad-free, decentralised, and privacy-centric social networks.
Each fediverse instance is managed by a human admin. You can find fediverse instances dedicated to art, music, technology, culture, or politics.
Join the growing community and experience the web as it was meant to be.
Judging by this main selling point of the Fediverse, it sounds to me like Meta shouldn’t be in the Fediverse do begin with, and every instance should defederate from them by default.
100% I will only be using instances that don’t federate with corporations.
Isn’t the Fediverse an idea? If so, that’s just someone’s opinion of the Fediverse. Activity Pub is the technology. Not saying it’s wrong, just adding context.
Centralisation will always set in due to sheer complacency. I mean it has already happened. The main player in the reddit-like fediverse is lemmy.world
No other instance comes close to the size of lemmy.world
I also disagree with Metas method of tracking and monetising every last bit of data (I’m trying to get rid of their platforms myself) but to expect the fediverse to be a balanced mixture of access points is just daydreaming.I don’t expect it to be balanced. I also don’t mind that a lot of users are centralized at lemmy.world - because we know the admins, and there isn’t a largescale corporation behind them that would be capable of monetizing and manipulating their userbase. The only kind of balance I want is that there isn’t an instance with multi-billion funding and teams of engineers dedicated to squeezing their userbase and monetizing every character they type. Sure, it will inevitably happen that someone from an instance would try something like this, but that’s an acceptable risk with community-run stuff and may or may not happen - and it probably won’t be as succesfull or large-scale. However, if you let in someone you are certain will do something like that, and has unimaginable amount of resources and manpower to do it, then they will just squeeze it dry while not shying away from exploiting every single privacy mistake there is in the protocol or our implementation.
Based
I spent a month getting an instance set up on .world, wearing my account in, putting up with the lag and other constant problems… then I read about this threads™ nonsense and how .world were playing a “wait and see” game with an evil empire. Read this thread (heh!), moved to .ml. Much smoother and more glitch-free experience. Just have to start over again. So far so good!
What’s the difference between lemmy.world and Lemmy.ml? Completely different instances? Sorry I’m new and still don’t understand everything
Its like one is hotmail and the other is yahoo mail. They are free services/hosts that allow you to access the activityPub protocol. There are hundreds of such providers, and you can even host you own on your own services if you wanted to/were inclined.
Lemmy is a specific layout of the ActivityPub protocol. Continuing the metaphor, you could think of Lemmy like an email newsgroup. All the different lemmy instances display and sort the newsgroups the same way, which is to emulate reddit.
Yes but you can access content from both of them from the other. Just browse to it or add the communities from the other to your subscriptions.
From what I can tell, .world is the main, biggest instance with the most people. That means whenever there are technical problems or waves of new signups, things tend to get a bit glitchy due to the system being overloaded. .ml seems to be a computer tech themed instance that doesn’t have so many people, so there’s not so much to overload all the circuitry bits.
…the lemmy.ml admin team took about 2 minutes to decide to pre-emptively block threats / Meta.
When the typo is more accurate than what was intended to be written.
Channeling Stallman and referring to the Windows 32 bit Application Programming Interface as lose32 instead of win32.
Thanks for saving us lemmy.ml Admins.
o7. We’re out here for yall, and we’re gonna make sure the fediverse stays inoculated from threats.
Thanks a lot, I was thinking of DMing about it. I am vocal about defederation of Big Tech instances, and any Big Tech elements (Cloudflare, CF/Google captchas). These must be isolated away from Fediverse at all costs.
For people who read this, I must also tell that WhatsApp, FB Messenger, Zoom, iMessage… all of these “chat” platforms are made upon defederated XMPP. Google used to also maintain a XMPP federated service, and killed XMPP for mass adoption. This is what Western Big Tech does.
It’s very strange to me that a lot of the pro-facebook views below seem to start with the base assumption that facebook is out to help the fediverse, and have no malicious motives behind all this. Its like inviting a con-man into your home because they super-promised they’ll make you rich.
Really surprising that some people can’t see through Facebooks opportunism, and are suddenly willing to trust these con-artists.
I’d bet a lot of the so called “supporters” are astro-turfed accounts.
It’s like they all have collective amnesia about the fact that Facebook was caught red handed giving children eating disorders… Just one of many of their crimes against the public.
The lack of critical thought has done a number on society. Everyone wants bite sized convenient information to parrot around, instead of doing research and being vigilantes of society, as the former is lazy and easy to do. I try a lot, but the discourse gap has widened so much, that many people only bother to talk and listen when they are hurt by these tech giants and big brands.
Last month, I did make a comment regarding defederating any Twitter/Facebook instances in Fediverse, and I surprisingly received some downvotes. People just do not realise the dangers of wanting growth at all costs. Preventing poisoning of roots is essential.
The lack of critical thought has done a number on society.
Likewise, society (disproportionately affected by the booj and those who serve them) reinforces this lack of critical thought. Someone in the genzedong Matrix server is in the process of translating one of Ho Chi Minh’s works into English and shared this relevant passage:
The capitalists and imperialists use culture and religion to make the people dumb, use laws to bind the people, use power to scare the people, and use wealth to make the people selfish. They make the people frightened to the bone whenever they hear of the word Revolution. So, Revolution must first start with waking the people up.
Every week that translation is exactly, word to word, what I think of atleast 2-3 times, in my free time. I can add to it, that it is also society factions (many groupthink tribes, mostly in Anglosphere) that help facilitate this, and not just wealth.
i doubt they have any malicious intent because the fediverse is nothing to them. they’ll use and improve activitypub, which is great, but eventually corporate strategy/shareholders will take them in a different direction and they’ll fork. damage will de done to the fediverse regardless, but there is no malicious intent involved.
lets not federate and take their contributions to source, best of both worlds.
I’m happy to call lemmy.ml my new home. BASED take!
Why do I keep seeing a plague doctor mask for your pfp
Every time I see a picture of him I think it has to be edited or something. He’s like a walking Snapchat filter.
“Hello, fellow humans!”
Does any other human out there love smoked meats ?
The best part about the full smoked meats vid is when his “friends” (i.e. employees) come over. What really gets me is that the friends NEVER speak unless spoken to, because it’s just a really awkward work event where Zuck has to pretend he has friends.
It made him look so gosh dang relatable.
No, that’s not the word I’m looking for. Unlikeable. That’s the one.
I don’t know about these smoking meats, but I enjoy human activities such as breathing air and walking with my leg.
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Interesting, mine was 5 seconds long and muted.
Tyler Cassidy made also a good song about Zucc.
This could be the intro to a found footage horror film about a cannibal that smokes his victims.
Believe it or not, but this image is also not edited
He always looks AI-generated
That’s because he’s an AI.
I know, The Social Network told me
Good god that’s terrifying.
How
Bro didn’t want a sunburn I guess, lol.
HELLO, FELLOW HUMANS
That one definitely is edited lol. Reminds me of the android from that Queen album cover
I can’t unsee it now lmao
He likely has a skilled pr team that has crafted his image as unique, brilliant, and even all this alien/ lizard stuff. In general, he is simply a billionaire and for sure not have much in common with working people.
the lizard thing is unfortunately just antisemitism, and older than zucc himself. the whole alien lizard people running the world bit comes from David Icke, who is very much a fascist, and was inspired directly by old school Nazi conspiracy theory texts like the Protocols of the Elders of Zion.
Yes excellent! No corporations!!! Just blocked on mine.
Awesome. This is great news. I just joined this instance and happy to see this position.
Kudos… It’s very much appreciated and a refreshing change to not be let down by something you enjoy online.
So… you’re not gonna try Threads then???
This!
I love this. Source ?
Thank you for your integrity and ethics. This action sends a strong message to the capitalist leeches where we stand.
Good riddance to Meta’s bullshit. Stop them before they get to the first E in EEE.
Here’s a sign to put up at the border between Lemmy.ml and Threads, which will surely have a 100-meter wall built on it with 50 kV electric fences, barbed wire, watchtowers, snipers, and whatever to keep those Meta corporate fuckers out.
Threads Quarantine Zone sign
The Lemmy version of the antifascist bulwark.
Joined a few Lemmy instances, but the admin team taking actions like these might make lemmy.ml my main place to go. Anything corporate is irredeemable.
