Which is your preferred thumb key for space and return on the sofle? Default has return on the left and space on the right. I’ve been using it opposite for a bit with space on the left and was liking that but figured I’d try it out in the default config for a bit. Not sure which I like more / which one feels more comfortable. What’s your preference? Do you use space on the left or the right side? Is there a reason for the enter/return key being on the left and space on the right by default?

  • Aldoo@lemmy.world
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    1 year ago

    I used to have space on the right, but it was pointed to me that, with my layout (for a reason I cannot remember!), space on the left would be more convenient. So I switched.

    However the key symmetrical to space is not enter, but backspace, both keys being the most used in my thumb clusters (I used to have both on the same side, and it was quite bad).

    Enter is on the left thumb, next to space.

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      One argument for moving space to a specific hand is so space is assigned to the vowel hand. If you are on a layout with definitive vowel / consonant hand split, then the theory goes that it is more frequent for words (at least in English) to begin with a consonant, and separately, also end with a consonant. By having space on the vowel hand, you are promoting hand alternation.

      Personally I have vowels on the left hand but still use right thumb for space. I do have ‘e’ on left thumb, but right hand thumb has been a habit since I learned qwerty on a mechanical typewriter…

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        1 year ago

        Right hand consonants must have been the reason indeed (t, s, r, n, … ). It is counterbalanced by the fact that punctuation is on the vowel side, but I suppose it doesn’t count as much.

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      1 year ago

      Ah, that’s an interesting place to put it, hadn’t considered that location!

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        1 year ago

        Considering that you never press enter next to space, there is no same finger bigram involving these two keys, so I believe it makes sense.

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      1 year ago

      I’m also a backspace on opposite thumb user. Feels better/makes more sense than enter for me

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          1 year ago

          I have enter on right thumb next to space, and on a combo left hand. I also use the combo as a way to hold enter, since my main enter key is a layer tap

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              It’s when you press 2 keys at the same time to get a new output. So I press c+c on qwerty to get enter.

              Here are the QMK docs for combos

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                  1 year ago

                  They have some great functionality for sure. Combos, tap dances (which I don’t use much of personally), and the leader key are all super super useful for compressing the footprint of a keymap down

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    1 year ago

    I swapped space to left side for all my keyboards, otherwise games become unplayable. No idea why default seems to be on the right side.

    • moosh@lemmy.worldOP
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      1 year ago

      This was my reasoning for it too. Guess with enter on left you can mouse and hit enter at the same time?

    • Corr@lemm.ee
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      1 year ago

      I learned to type with space on my right thumb. That said, I have a gaming layout that puts space on left thumb for obvious reasons

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    I have always typed with space on right hand. I also have enter on the right hand because I had tab on my left hand and wanted left handed alt+tab. This ran into an issue with not having enter on left thumb when my hand is on the mouse so now I have a combo for enter on my left hand too lol.

    That said, space on right for life

    • moosh@lemmy.worldOP
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      Ah, I’m having to relearn to type a bit since I learned to touch type as a kid and hit space with both thumbs.

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        1 year ago

        Interesting. I feel like I’ve never heard of that. Everyone I know only uses a specific thumb for space. But some people use their thumb for shift so there are definitely some unconventional ways to type

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          Maybe it’s non conventional? Guess it just sorta came naturally and I just hit space with which ever thumb was on the hand opposite of the last pressed key as I was finishing up a word.

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    I started with space on the right mainly because I used to type like that on a 60% keyboard. Then swapped to make gaming easier and I really wanted to keep a single layout so that I can easily chat during gaming without switching layers.

    Next, I wanted to learn a 3x5 layout for possibly building such a board in future and took some inspiration from more compact layouts. Now I have shift on the right and enter on a layer. Here’s my layout I’ve been using for months now: https://keymapdb.com/keymaps/ranzq/

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    1 year ago

    Space left, Enter right, so it’s more like a regular setup.

    Also, for WASD gaming you need the space on the left.