It’s so tough because the whole point of VAR in relation to offsides is to be able to determine if something is offside or it isn’t, which in 99%+ of cases you can see. There are these occasions where something is technically offside, like with a sliver of someone’s boot or a tiny part of their shoulder, but it doesn’t feel like it’s really in the spirit of the rule. In those cases though you can’t say that you’ll allow it because offside is meant to be a black or white decision, and if you let these minuscule infringements go you then need to decide where the line is again.
So that just moves the line 30cm. It doesn’t solve the problem. Imagine this exact same picture except Kean is 31cm past the last defender, the line is drawn at 30cm from the last man. Same problem
Sure in this case that would make this one definitively onside, but like I said there will be a time when a striker is ~30cm past the last defender and the line drawing becomes an issue again
But at least you can say he was well offside, and it would be much easier to take. It changes the narrative and players/fans will feel much less hard done by with tight calls.
"if my team had a goal disallowed because the was 31cm offside, it would be much easier to take.
The way I see it VAR can (and likely has) be used as a tool to allow more corruption into the sport, by giving people time to decide whether to intervene or not, to officiate in whichever way, gives the outcome they want the highest likelihood to happen, I cannot be pro VAR for this reason alone.
Then you add in the fact goals are scored and people aren’t celebrating, taking joy and excitement out of the sport cannot be a good thing.
Watching this with my Juventini cousins who are pro-var and they are fuming lmao
It’s so tough because the whole point of VAR in relation to offsides is to be able to determine if something is offside or it isn’t, which in 99%+ of cases you can see. There are these occasions where something is technically offside, like with a sliver of someone’s boot or a tiny part of their shoulder, but it doesn’t feel like it’s really in the spirit of the rule. In those cases though you can’t say that you’ll allow it because offside is meant to be a black or white decision, and if you let these minuscule infringements go you then need to decide where the line is again.
The rule needs to be adapted so that every time someone is called offside everyone can agree that the striker was gaining an advantage.
There really needs to be a buffer zone for offsides calls.
There is no skill here, the defender didn’t make a conscious attempt to play the attacker offside by 5mm, it’s just pure luck.
I’d argue that any advantage an attacker gets inside 30cm is negligible, and hardly worth all this effort to penalise.
At, it feels like we roll the dice to see if a goal stands based on an offside call that neither player knew anything about.
Your proposal doesn’t change anything other than create an even more arbitrary point to argue about.
So that just moves the line 30cm. It doesn’t solve the problem. Imagine this exact same picture except Kean is 31cm past the last defender, the line is drawn at 30cm from the last man. Same problem
Sure in this case that would make this one definitively onside, but like I said there will be a time when a striker is ~30cm past the last defender and the line drawing becomes an issue again
But at least you can say he was well offside, and it would be much easier to take. It changes the narrative and players/fans will feel much less hard done by with tight calls.
"if my team had a goal disallowed because the was 31cm offside, it would be much easier to take.
I remember pre-var there was “same hight”
This is definitely same hight, no offside
i mean you can be pro var and also pro common fucking sense too right
Would you let the goal stand?
The way I see it VAR can (and likely has) be used as a tool to allow more corruption into the sport, by giving people time to decide whether to intervene or not, to officiate in whichever way, gives the outcome they want the highest likelihood to happen, I cannot be pro VAR for this reason alone.
Then you add in the fact goals are scored and people aren’t celebrating, taking joy and excitement out of the sport cannot be a good thing.
Nah not really, often those two things are in direct conflict of each other.