• hotdaniel@lemmy.zip
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    8 months ago

    You’re absolutely insane. Terrorists invaded Israel and brutally killed 1500 people, and your response is, eh maybe it’s not that bad. It’s not about the volume of people killed, it’s about the way they were killed and the sworn mission from Hamas to never stop. A mission they affirmed just a couple days ago when they announced they were not apologetic for their actions and they’d do it again. So, this is the response they’ll get from Israel. In order for there to be peace, Hamas must be completely destroyed. You pretend that you don’t support Hamas, but your eagerness to avoid any discussion of why Israel is doing what they’re doing speaks to an irrational fixation. I doubt you’re Palestinian or Israeli. You don’t know what it’s like living under hundreds of rockets launched at you every day, but you demand Israel return to that, and return to the threat of more terrorism on their civilians. They will not, and I don’t see why I should prefer innocent Israelis dying over innocent Palestinians. If someone innocent is going to die, at least use their death in service of destroying terrorism so that one day there might be peace.

    https://www.algemeiner.com/2023/11/01/hamas-official-promises-carry-out-oct-7-massacre-again-and-again-until-israels-annihilation/

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      October 2023 https://www.reddit.com/r/worldnewsvideo/comments/17m955y/north_gaza_is_more_beautiful_than_ever_blowing_up/

      “North Gaza is more beautiful than ever. Blowing up everything is amazing. When finished, we will hand over the lands of Gaza to soldiers & settlers who lived in Gush Katif.” - Israeli Minister of Heritage Amichai Eliyahu, states Israel’s objectives in Gaza.

      August 2023 https://www.middleeastmonitor.com/20230803-israel-far-right-minister-calls-for-annexing-west-bank/

      The extremist minister called the Green Line, which separates the Palestinian territories occupied in 1948 – now Israel -from those occupied in 1967, “fictitious.”

      “I do not really think there is a Green Line. It is a fictitious line. This is our homeland. This is where the Jewish People arose,” he claimed.

      I wouldn’t cite a fascist if he wasn’t a minister of the Israel government. There is no self defense here, it’s a slow motion invasion that lasts decades, aka, colonization process. And there is resistance, some of that is armed and some of that is cruel and totally mislead in my opinion.

      You swallowed that there is no way Israel civilians will stop to be victimized. And therefore, let’s the others be killed. This is the typical dehumanization thinking of “the enemy”. It’s that thinking that governments with interests in other’s lands, resources, power, feed their citizens in order to get support for their wars.

      Really, make the exercise of swapping Israel with Hamas in your comments, and you will read a jihadist terrorist message. You mutually feed your dehumanization. Stop that! Jihadists and those who support their attrocities are the problem. Israel governtment and those who support their attrocities are the problem. You are part of the problem, can’t you see you see that? You can change something, then, gz!

      And no, I don’t know what is like to live under Hamas rockets, the same way I don’t know what is like to live under a criminal apartheid with racists checkpoints, land stealing, impune killings, house burnings, permanent harassment and imprisonment just for standing up even without self defense violence (rocks against soldiers that are shooting “us”?)

      You have commented nothing about all this long lasting violence. Good faith israelis are against ilegal settlements, occupation, military conscription, etc.