• Chetzemoka@startrek.website
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    YOU are a murderer.

    My sister was bleeding to death from an incomplete miscarriage of a very much wanted pregnancy in Ohio ten years ago. You know how they fix that problem? The exact same medical procedure that is used for elective abortion.

    You would have preferred that my sister bleed to death or die of sepsis for no reason. You are trying to murder my sister.

    In case you think that doesn’t really happen:

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_of_Savita_Halappanavar

    “On 21 October 2012, Halappanavar, then 17 weeks pregnant, was examined at University Hospital Galway after complaining of back pain, but was soon discharged without a diagnosis. She returned to the hospital later that day, this time complaining of lower pressure, a sensation she described as feeling “something coming down”, and a subsequent examination found that the gestational sac was protruding from her body. She was admitted to hospital, as it was determined that miscarriage was unavoidable, and several hours later, just after midnight on 22 October, her water broke but did not expel the fetus.[8]: 22–26 [8]: 29 [9] The following day, on 23 October, Halappanavar discussed abortion with her consulting physician but her request was promptly refused, as Irish law at that time forbade abortion if a fetal heartbeat was still present.[8]: 33 [10] Afterwards, Halappanavar developed sepsis and, despite doctors’ efforts to treat her, had a cardiac arrest at 1:09 AM on 28 October, and died, aged 31”

    • cricket98@lemmy.world
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      I’m ok with abortion if there is a complication that can kill the mother. I still don’t think killing babies because you don’t want them is moral.

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        How graceful for you to let women make their own medical decisions as long as you think they have sufficient reason.

        I think men should have their balls tied off with rubber bands unless I think their health is in danger; that way they can’t create babies to “murder.”

        Better get that application in now, there’s a hell of a backlog.

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        No person has the right to use another person’s body without their consent. Abortion is always self defense.

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        Is it more moral to force a child into a life where they cant afford basic necessities, where the people who are supposed to watch over them dont want them, dont love them? Is that moral?

        And don’t you dare bring up adoption. With abortion legal 20,000 kids age out of foster care every year. that number is undoubtedly going to increase.

        • cricket98@lemmy.world
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          I don’t think you should be able to murder someone because you predict they will live a hard life. We don’t kill the mentally disabled for the same reason.