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    Are such observations broadly relevant or valuable, though, within the context?

    Yes. Skill can be measured by the time needed to attain it. Since the skills needed by a surgeon take years to acquire, the surgeon requires more skill than the fry cook. This is a counterexample to your thesis. And by being a counterexample to your thesis, it is relevant and/or valuable. Unless of course, your thesis were to be considered irrelevant and worthless.

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      You are conflating a duration of time invested acquiring a particular skill, which is quantitative, and therefore may be ranked, if desired, with a skill itself.

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          Skills differ qualitatively, but not by expressing any natural ranking as greater or lesser one against another.

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            Well, I do agree that the surgeon isn’t necessarily a better person because he has spend more time studying, but the greater time investment in training a surgeon is something that needs to be taken into consideration. How do you think should it be considered?

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              Now you are shifting the goalposts. I am not asserting that no one would take note of how someone may acquire one skill compared to another.

              Again, skills are different, not greater or lesser.

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                Again, skills are different, not greater or lesser.

                That’s what’s called an axiom, because it’s a statement that can’t really be argued. To disprove it, a valuation of skills would need to be imposed, and any valuation could just as easily be rejected, or turn out to be useless. And I do agree with your axiom.

                So, my question is, what conclusions do you derive from the axiom?

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                  Any valuation that is imposed is simply one imposed, not natural, and neither is any value derived from it essential as an attribute of that which is being appraised.