VAR became the main point of a lot of post-match discussions to the point that we never had so much complaining about refs. Every single big game has some VAR controversy, and this is just extremely bad.
VAR needs to move to WC’s version of offside (that one simply can’t be disputed, even if it’s 1mm offside it’s easier to swallow than the line garbage) and for ABSOLUTELY CLEAR decisions. If VAR is taking 5 minutes to decide on something then that’s ridiculous.
Or give coaches challenges or whatever. Current model is disgusting and ruining all of football discussions. I’m tired of analysing every single decision that refs make.
Finally the movement to get VAR out of our game is gaining traction.
Carra is right on the goalline tech, that can stay. But the offside rubbish can get binned. Scoring a goal is the best moment in football bar none, having to faff around even for a few seconds spoils it. There was nothing wrong with having a linesman before and the “3 yards offside” described in the article happened so rarely it doesn’t matter.
Get fucking var out of the sport.
Oh god I totally agree.
I think this forum is a great example of why VAR exists & why it’s shit.
Most people on here only watch their team on the TV, probably didn’t play. Consume football through online, mostly.
As a result there is this fucking hysteria around decisions and an obsession with there not being any errors.
It’s seen as like some deep rooted injustice now if a decision doesn’t go your way. Previously that was just sort of accepted & people move on. Now we have Reddit and twitter so people don’t move on, they post it and show angles and argue about it.
Before, you just went to the game or watched it on TV and that was kind of your consumption of that game over with.
I don’t know why people are so quick to ignore the actual football. Like Newcastle Arsenal. Tight game, but Newcastle were better than Arsenal. Yeah gooners didn’t get bailed out by the referee, but the fact is they still weren’t as good and that’s why they lost. - but all of that becomes irrelevant because there is some controversy to obsess over.
Had Arsenal just played well & won we wouldn’t have a fucking club statement, Arteta acting like he’s Malcom X & gooners fabricating illuminati level conspiracy theory bullshit as those Mike Dean is this puppet master over all pundits.
It’s crazy how night and day their opinions are when they’re on sky versus on other networks/personal accs, massive hypocrites
Almost as if Sky are directly influencing what they say.
Why do football fans struggle to understand the concept of hypocrisy so badly? Even if you think that Carrager says one thing on Sky and another on Twitter, and that it’s because of who pays his wages, that isn’t hypocrisy. It’s self-serving and inconsistent at worst.
We need better refs. VAR has improved the sport.
Carra is losing it by the week
What’s up with him and Neville man
Paid to create engagement.
I don’t see any hypocrisy. You can say that you think it’s wrong for the type of Statements Arteta came out with and at the same time not want VAR anymore.
We must instead limit dumb views like this one from Carragher.
VAR is a wonderful tool. If you’re too stupid to use a tool then you should resign and give the spot to someone who CAN use it.
It’s funny yo see how many people here are against VAR, all of them with PL flairs. In the Eredivisie, it’s used in a (mostly) competent manner and I don’t think I’ve heard of a single person that wants VAR to be binned yet within Eredivisie context.
I know right? Getting rid of VAR is like demanding to get rid of cars because some drunk fool hit a child while coming back home from a bar.
Just because the English refs are incredibly incompetent and/or perhaps corrupt doesn’t mean that VAR in itself is bad. Ridiculous.
Replace the staff (they sure as shit got plenty of money to get the best refs in Europe) and get on with it.
VAR hasn’t ruined football PGMOL, just need to be a little less shit.
You will never end controversy or opinion difference, but cast your mind back to pre-VAR days and just fuck me things were bad. Total guess work everywhere, refs completely cowered by crowds (United went a decade without conceding a penalty at Old Trafford!), it was so much worse.
Literally just get PGMOL to a point where computers not some old guy is running offside lines manually and where apologies aren’t being handed out for wildly incorrect decisions and it’s party time.
The vast majority of gripes aren’t that VAR intervened it’s that they didn’t! Second most common gripe is that VAR did intervene but in a way that it never usually does (pull on a shirt at a corner for example).
Literally just get everyone on the same page, publish some guidelines/polices for commonly encountered situations (say shirt pulls in the box will only be a penalty if they have an observable consequence on the game) and lower the bar for intervention from clear and obvious to material and impactful and we’d be there.
This isn’t a hard situation to solve, it just needs to be iteratively improved, with the underpinning assumptions of what would work best critically evaluated and the games stakeholders communicated with openly and honestly.
Where was this energy after the weekend’s premier league games…?
Is this the same guy that called Arteta and Arsenal embarrassing for lambasting Var but now it’s Liverpool we need to limit it.
This guy is an absolute bellend.
No, it’s not.
This is what the refs have always wanted btw - they’ve never ever been under more scrutiny than they have the past couple seasons and they’re squirming trying to figure out a way to change the as is
Carragher doing PR pieces for the refs is an example of this shower of self-serving useless wankers trying to keep the status quo
Jamie Carragher is ruining football, we must limit his influence now
VAR should only be used on offsides or at the refs call. It’s basically running the game