VAR was good at the 2018 world cup. That was 5 years ago and the first time these refs had to do it. The PL has had VAR for 4 years and it’s still a mess. But yeah, the system is obviously the problem. It’s not the fact that the most important factor they take into account is if they are ready to hurt their mate’s feeling by telling him he was wrong.
Just make the decision yourself as the VAR ref. No reason embarrass the ref by taking him to the monitor. They feel like a dog that’s nose is shoved into the poo it made where it shouldn’t have. Keeps the game moving much better too
Arteta god bless you.
if they scrap VAR it would be a massive mistake, you just need to see games without VAR to see the effect. Broja was called offside in his own half ffs.
backlashincompetencythe changes should be the neeks running it
Moyes: “We feel that we’re not getting an awful lot back when we’re giving it back to the officials or whoever,” he said.
“There have been a couple of big incidents that have been highlighted, but it’s mainly at the top clubs. It’s as if people don’t think that some other clubs have the same problems, the same Var problems, the same decision-making. It doesn’t get the same highlight. We’re all pretty disappointed by what we’ve been getting back.
“We don’t want to do it because managers will be fined for speaking out of turn. Most managers don’t want to say anything about it because we know we’re locked down.
“If clubs or managers choose to have an outburst then that’s their choice and they can choose to do that.”
Gee, would you look at that. It’s almost like staying silent achieves nothing. I was told Arteta and Arsenal embarrassed themselves.
Something does need to change. I don’t enjoy watching football matches that have constant stoppages and 10+ minutes of added time each half.
I’m fine with VAR for offsides, but I think they should stop using still frames as evidence of foul play. Watch the challenges at full speed and make a decision from that.
Simplify what is a “clear and obvious error” In their list of demands for an overhaul of Var during talks with Professional Game Match Officials Ltd (PGMOL), Premier League managers called for “a review [and simplification] of the interpretation of the term ‘clear and obvious’ in Var decision-making, as this is a cause of much confusion at present”. That followed frustration with what they perceive as an inconsistency in such errors being overturned, with highly-controversial decisions such as the award of Newcastle United’s winner against Arsenal on Saturday being allowed to stand despite a push by Joelinton on Gabriel when Vars have intervened in seemingly less clear-cut incidents. This has been compounded by a different interpretation in Uefa competitions, with Manchester United on the wrong end of questionable penalty and red-card calls on Wednesday and Liverpool denied a last-gasp equaliser on Thursday for a debatable handball.
It’s actually incredible that something as basic as this is an issue in a multi-billion pound industry.
I just can’t imagine introducing protocols without clearly defining them. And then further exasperated by different competitions interpeting the guidance completely differently. Rules shouldn’t change depending on the competition you’re playing in.
The system is really run by clowns.
It’s like wanting the Champions League to prioritise goal difference over head to head like the Premier League. They don’t do that, and if they did other nations who use head to head in their league would want it changed. If players are unable to differentiate rules when playing in different competitions then they definitely need it simplified and laid out for them because ignorance of the rules doesn’t cut it as an excuse.
We could do what rugby does. Center ref says they want to go to VAR to confirm a call, but the “on field decision is xyz.” If VAR confirms it has evidence to overturn the ruling, they can show the center ref on the screen, and let them know what the call is. The VAR ref is a licensed ref and should be able to make all the same calls, so in the case the center ref asks for VAR assistance, the VAR ref should be able to make the appropriate call and relay it to the field. The communication is good, and explained to players, and even fans on TV can hear the conversations.
Football is steeped in so much tradition, it’s difficult to take one sport and say “do it just like this but in another sport.” Still, though, it’s easy to see that when a VAR has no ability to actually make calls, they have to run everything through the center ref, that things will get messy and confuscTed and take a bunch of time.
Let the center ref make the initial assessment, allow for VAR to confirm or explain why the call was not the case, and move on from there. If they need to call the ref to the screen to show, that’s fine, but VAR ref should have the power to confirm and make calls as well, when called upon by center ref.
I watch a lot of MLS, it hasn’t been too poorly implemented, although there are some growing pains. But some of the EPL calls and VAR usage is just baffling to me. Idk what the answer is, but “continue as we are” is definitely not the answer