Congressional staff say the mood inside the Capitol is tense, stifling and bewildering as members brush off their constituents’ outrage.

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      Not sure if you’re being sarcastic or serious. I’m being serious. I’d be happy to learn and discuss if you’re willing to reply with more than accusations.

      As I understand it, the Hamas Charter says that Israel should not exist. At all. Attacking civilians as opposed to Israeli militants appears to reinforce that assesment. I’m not sure this meets the definition of genocide but telling your opponent they don’t get to exist seems to bark up that tree.

      At the same time, Israel is sending missles into populous zones, which absolutely sucks, but isn’t that where Hamas attacks from and stores weaponry? I consent that I only think this because of what I’ve read. I have no idea if it’s really factual. Is Hamas using the Palestinians as a shield to further their goals? That doesn’t sound like symbiosis, it sounds like a parasite.

      If it’s true, why is Hamas putting civilians in the line of fire by waging war and then locating their gear in such a location? That sounds a bit genocidal in the same way that cancer kills its host.

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          How do you reconcile the fact that Hamas explicitly does not want Israelis to exist anymore though? Does that not mean they intend to carry out a genocide?

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              This is the line I’ve seen hundreds of times. It’s not complicated. They think by repeating their BS enough It’ll stick, because to republicans, it will

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            They would be fine with Israelis becoming Palestinian. That’s hardly genocide.

            They just don’t want Israel to exist.

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              The Day of Judgment will not come until Muslims fight the Jews, when the Jew will hide behind stones and trees. The stones and trees will say, ‘O Muslim, O servant of God, there is a Jew behind me, come and kill him.’ Only the Gharkad tree would not do that, because it is one of the trees of the Jews.

              A real hadith quote from Hamas’ founding charter, Article VII (1988)

              Let’s be totally real here, for most of their short history Hamas has been deeply committed to carrying out a genocide against the Jewish people for a mix of reasons including politics, religion and race. Over the last 4-5 years Hamas have made an effort to moderate their language around this topic, but judging by recent events they have done very little to moderate their actions and ideology.

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                Thats how israel was created. Israel did that within living memory. That was how that nation came to be.

                I dont think being homophobic is overly relevant, tho, no? Being homophobic is not a reason to murder people.

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                Your homophobia aside, that’s exactly what the Israelis are doing. Also, strictly speaking, the conquering and elimination of a national government isn’t genocide. That requires the people to be murdered for being of that national origin. If they aren’t being murdered, there’s no genocide.

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                  I’m sorry, what? My fucking “homophobia” for pointing out that people would be murdered for identifying as LGBTQ in a Muslim country?

                  You know nothing of suffering and struggle, and I wouldn’t want you to anyways. You have far more privilege and opportunity than others who came before you, despite the economic and social oppression we’re facing today. You take your privilege and access to modern technology, and you use it to be a completely uninformed, uneducated bigot.

                  People are thrown from rooftops in Muslim countries for being gay. And you have the fucking audacity to call me homophobic for pointing out that Muslims would kill LGBTQ people. You are every vile “snowflake” parody the rightwing says you are. You’re a fucking disgrace. Grow up.

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                    I’m a Mexican-American atheist man who has sucked more dicks in my life than most women have. I live a couple miles from the bridge I slept under in the wintertime as a homeless kid because the Gospel Mission didn’t “take my kind”. I spent my days collecting enough bottles so I could buy a meal every day for my sister and I so we didn’t starve, because one day our mother decided she didn’t want to take care of us anymore and just left. So don’t you fucking dare strut around talking about how only you know what suffering is, you Zionist, genocidal, Muslim-hating, self-righteous piece of shit. You didn’t suffer through any shit countless other people have. The difference between you and I is that I didn’t let it turn me into a fucking shit stain of a human being.