• MossBear@lemmy.world
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    1 year ago

    On the flip side of things, we have nearly a century of movies treating women as largely useless, fragile creatures who don’t do anything of importance, so let’s balance that on the scales while we’re at it perhaps.

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      1 year ago

      This identifies two problems, and doesn’t negate the original problem (two wrongs make a right fallacy). Let’s work to fix both problems.

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        1 year ago

        Let’s put more of our time and effort into fixing the problem which has existed in some form for all of human history and then whatever time and energy we have left over can go to working on the present blip related to the Barbie movie.

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      1 year ago

      Demonizing men doesn’t help women. I’m all for addressing women’s issues, including how they’re represented in popular media, but representing men poorly is a totally unnecessary part of that. Do you think the solution to the legacy of slavery is for Blacks to enslave Whites for 150 years? To balance the scales? What a bullshit notion.

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        1 year ago

        Nope, you’re reaching. Should every man in every move and show be represented in an idealized way at all times? How do you even remotely judge what’s a character (which is to say an individual) being portrayed in a particular way versus all men, everywhere being “demonized” as you put it?

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          1 year ago

          Virtually every male character in that film is portrayed negatively, and the feminist messaging is very clear. I’d say that qualifies as demonizing.

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            1 year ago

            I knew their was a reason I didn’t want to see that movie. I just didn’t know what it was until now.

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            1 year ago

            What does negatively mean in this context? What are some examples? I haven’t seem the movie.

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              1 year ago

              Here’s a decent enough summary of the plot. The film depicts all the Kens as idiotic, shallow, patriarchy-loving simpletons who are dependent on their Barbie counterparts and many men in the Real World as misogynistic assholes.

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                1 year ago

                I could see how for some women that would be a not entirely unrealistic experience of the men in their lives. Especially if they were raised in more conservative states. Even to the extent that it may not be ideal (and I’m assuming it’s not being mischaracterized here), it seems like such a minor thing. How many cultural war battles have come and gone and been forgotten without the culture actually changing in any significant way? I’d wager a fair number.

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                  1 year ago

                  Okay, I’m pretty sure you just willfully don’t want to see my point, so I’m going to bid this thread adieu.