Except whenever the settlements decide to expand they bring Israeli laws with them. Which is 100 percent a war crime. Or an act of war if you want to pretend the West Bank is a separate country not under occupation.
Those expansions of land and laws are into C areas, which is by the Oslo accords the property of Israel.
Now, you can question the legitimacy of the C areas as stated by Oslo, but those terms were agreed upon by the PLO and Israel. It’s a fucked up situation that Israel gets most of the uninhabited land, but that’s what’s been agreed to by both parties.
If the peace talks would’ve continued and Rabin wouldn’t have been murdered, and the Intifada wouldn’t have happened, maybe those C area settlements’ expansions wouldn’t have happened.
Israel has long ago broken any accord they made with Palestine. Those agreements were predicated on respecting the sovereignty of Palestine and the decades long blockade and occupation of anywhere they want to be means that accord is dead.
You don’t get to ignore a treaty while demanding the other party respect it.
So did Palestinians break it… Israel is far from innocent, but Palestinians are even less so. Rewarding families of terrorist suicide bombers isn’t really sending “let’s do peace” vibes. Bad behaviour drags bad behaviour, and that’s true for both sides.
People wonder why Israel expands their settlements, when the Palestinian leaders show 0 interest in not even doing peace - but even acknowledging the existence of Israel.
It takes 2 to tango, and violence brings violence. That’s true to both sides - and if you count who started the aggression, Palestinians are almost always the first to escalate that aggression.
That’s atrocious. In your own property, no one else is going to collect it. That’s different from maing huge pipes and drainage systems over the city, just collecting what would otherwise be on your driveway or patio.
It’s one of those things that sounds dumb at first glance, but actually has a lot of sound reasoning behind it, read up on it more if you’re interested
People take it to the logical extreme by converting large tracts in water catching systems. Not an issue if a few do it but it usually isn’t just a few. It starts depleting aquifers and rivers, causing damage to the ecosystem and communities down the way. Doesn’t even need to be water scarce areas either.
Okay so let’s say a million acres get turned into above ground kiddie pools. These people collect and store as much water as they can, so it’s like a million acres times day ten feet deep.
How much of an effect is that water going to have on the surrounding hydrology, being trapped on those properties?
It’s not sanitary, depletes water tables under the earth that naturally filter water as it sinks through the soil, and is not efficient for collection if servicing a large population.
Who knows? Maybe someone should ask the Israeli government instead of assuming without facts.
If you ask me, I think it’s to control where people can drink safe quality water so they can spend less money on humanitarian aid curing easily preventable stagnating water-bourne diseases and shift that same money over to war production against Hamas instead.
I think Hamas wants Israel to stretch its defense budget as thin as possible by deliberately creating humanitarian disasters in Gaza so that Israel can’t spend it on military equipment against Hamas.
I mean, you’re right that there is an organization terrorizing West Bank. They are also terrorizing Gaza. And a lot of what they are doing serves as pro-Hamas propaganda.
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It’s illegal or highly fined in a lot of other countries as well. (Especially during dry seasons)
In other countries they don’t cut you off from water infrastructure either though. Context is important.
Israel provides 13% of water. Hamas is responsible for the rest. They just build bombs with the water pipes instead.
Hamas isn’t in power in the West Bank.
They have the PLO there and no siege. A/B areas are not under this law since they’re not under Israeli rule.
Except whenever the settlements decide to expand they bring Israeli laws with them. Which is 100 percent a war crime. Or an act of war if you want to pretend the West Bank is a separate country not under occupation.
Those expansions of land and laws are into C areas, which is by the Oslo accords the property of Israel. Now, you can question the legitimacy of the C areas as stated by Oslo, but those terms were agreed upon by the PLO and Israel. It’s a fucked up situation that Israel gets most of the uninhabited land, but that’s what’s been agreed to by both parties. If the peace talks would’ve continued and Rabin wouldn’t have been murdered, and the Intifada wouldn’t have happened, maybe those C area settlements’ expansions wouldn’t have happened.
Israel has long ago broken any accord they made with Palestine. Those agreements were predicated on respecting the sovereignty of Palestine and the decades long blockade and occupation of anywhere they want to be means that accord is dead.
You don’t get to ignore a treaty while demanding the other party respect it.
So did Palestinians break it… Israel is far from innocent, but Palestinians are even less so. Rewarding families of terrorist suicide bombers isn’t really sending “let’s do peace” vibes. Bad behaviour drags bad behaviour, and that’s true for both sides.
People wonder why Israel expands their settlements, when the Palestinian leaders show 0 interest in not even doing peace - but even acknowledging the existence of Israel.
It takes 2 to tango, and violence brings violence. That’s true to both sides - and if you count who started the aggression, Palestinians are almost always the first to escalate that aggression.
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That’s atrocious. In your own property, no one else is going to collect it. That’s different from maing huge pipes and drainage systems over the city, just collecting what would otherwise be on your driveway or patio.
It’s one of those things that sounds dumb at first glance, but actually has a lot of sound reasoning behind it, read up on it more if you’re interested
Help the lazy out. What’s the sound reason?
People take it to the logical extreme by converting large tracts in water catching systems. Not an issue if a few do it but it usually isn’t just a few. It starts depleting aquifers and rivers, causing damage to the ecosystem and communities down the way. Doesn’t even need to be water scarce areas either.
Okay so let’s say a million acres get turned into above ground kiddie pools. These people collect and store as much water as they can, so it’s like a million acres times day ten feet deep.
How much of an effect is that water going to have on the surrounding hydrology, being trapped on those properties?
Well, it would amount to about 224 days of average flow of the Colorado River in a given year. So that would probably affect things quite a bit.
Okay, so how close is the actual amount being collected, to a million acres times ten feet deep?
Do you think it’s ten percent of that? Is everyone with an acre keeping the equivalent of a foot of water on their property?
It’s not sanitary, depletes water tables under the earth that naturally filter water as it sinks through the soil, and is not efficient for collection if servicing a large population.
OP is simply spreading pro Hamas propaganda
How is concern about basic human right a pro-hamas propaganda now?
According to the Anything Goes Act of 2022, you are allowed to say whatever horseshit you want and it is a legit argument.
Candy bars? Nuclear death sticks from planet Zorb
Want fries with that? You’re an antisemite. That’ll be $5.87
Collecting rainwater? You’re a Hamas agent and everybody knows it
So what’s the reasoning for why Isreal gets to impose that policy on Palestinians?
“All power grows out of the barrel of a gun.”
— Mao Zedong
Who knows? Maybe someone should ask the Israeli government instead of assuming without facts.
If you ask me, I think it’s to control where people can drink safe quality water so they can spend less money on humanitarian aid curing easily preventable stagnating water-bourne diseases and shift that same money over to war production against Hamas instead.
I think Hamas wants Israel to stretch its defense budget as thin as possible by deliberately creating humanitarian disasters in Gaza so that Israel can’t spend it on military equipment against Hamas.
Ah yes, ask “no, we didn’t use white phosphorus” isreal
Hamas is only in Gaza. This is a West Bank thing where the Israeli government imposing it’s own civil laws is a war crime.
Then replace Hamas with whatever insert-terrorist-organization-here.
That’s not how this works. You don’t get to just imagine AQ running a place.
Forgive the ignorance, I know nothing of the West Bank. Please elaborate.
I mean, you’re right that there is an organization terrorizing West Bank. They are also terrorizing Gaza. And a lot of what they are doing serves as pro-Hamas propaganda.
The earth collects the water where it eventually ends up back in the water table.