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    Republicans are so fucking pro Israel it’s laughable. What the fuck are you even saying? Have you completely lost the thread of the last twenty years to be coming in here pretending the opposite? I legitimately think you’re a fascist who wants to end democracy and you’re arguing in bad faith.

    https://www.jns.org/netanyahu-meets-with-republican-senators-in-jerusalem/ ^ senate minority leader

    https://m.jpost.com/israel-news/netanyahu-meets-with-republicans-after-temple-mount-visit-618092 ^ Speaker of the house

    Republicans invite Netanyahu to address Congress as part of spurning of Obama ^ basically every republican

    https://www.nationaljournal.com/s/31845/ ^ you’re a fucking clown bro

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        You: vote republican or you support genocide.

        Me: you’re seriously pretending Republicans don’t also support this shit? You’re a clown.

        You: :clown: honk honk

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        And since we’re editing links in retroactively, fuck it:

        Trump says he stands with Netanyahu after a barrage of GOP criticism for saying he ‘let us down’

        Man you really edited the fuck out of that comment over time. But sure lets respond to the edit. It’s a two party system, and one of them wants to turn it into a one party system. You’re clearly on board with that plan. I am not.

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          Complaining about me having an edit window of 5 minutes in a comment where you came back 15 minutes later to add shit

          go completely fuck yourself with your hypocritical bitching

          Not that you added a single thing of substance mind you

          You think another link to republicans being bad changes my reply to your three previous links of the same thing? Deeply unserious. You argue like you’re sleep walking. Zero conscious thought. Simply not paying attention. Dull.

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          Me: shooting a child in the head because if I don’t the other party will

          “honk honk I don’t actually like murdering children lol believe me”

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            Me: shooting a child in the head because if I don’t the other party will

            “honk honk I don’t actually like murdering children lol believe me”

            … what?

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              Your argument boils down to actual real life whataboutism. You dodge the question of supporting genocide yourself by saying the other side is also bad.

              So the fuck what? Blood on your hands is morally superior because YOU’RE morally superior?

              You’re voting in favor of murdering children either way. Even on your own terms. You just pretend it doesn’t matter.

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                In the bounds of Israel support, there’s no good candidate. We’re arguing because you’re trying to pretend this is a democrat vs republican thing.

                I reminded you that it’s very much an American politician thing, and oh, btw January 6th happened, and we’re on track for a republican coup if we give Trump power again.

                That’s what happened in this conversation. Are you good?


                Please stop editing your fucking posts. It’s like trying to argue with your drafts.

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                  Please stop editing your fucking posts. It’s like trying to argue with your drafts.

                  Maybe don’t refresh your page every 30 seconds you fucking psychopath.

                  In the bounds of Israel support, there’s no good candidate. We’re arguing because you’re trying to pretend this is a democrat vs republican thing.

                  And that’s why my thesis is you should vote for the lesser evil. I’m completely incoherent lol

                  Edit: NOTE: by ‘lesser evil’ I mean the maximum amount of evil but the other side wouldn’t be any better

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                    Please stop editing your fucking posts. It’s like trying to argue with your drafts.

                    Maybe don’t refresh your page every 30 seconds you fucking psychopath.

                    ^ That was your whole post when I responded, btw.

                    It’s 2023, my dude. You should learn about apps and phone notifications.

                    I’m completely incoherent lol

                    I agree. I’m gonna call it here, I wish you didn’t exist. You’re so dumb, and the fact that you almost certainly vote is very demoralizing. Anyway have a good one.

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                Please google what Whataboutism actually means.

                The US has hardly any democracy in their electoral system. All you can do on federal level is inputting a 1 bit vote once every four years. And if you don’t live in a swing state, that vote doesn’t count at all.

                So there are only three possible choices on the ballot:

                -Vote for A -Vote for B -Vote for another party, do a blank vote or don’t go voting

                All of the options in the third choice lead to exactly the same result: You have no input regarding the result.

                So if your choice is between A, B, or leaving it up to others to decide for you, then comparing the stances of A and B is exactly what you have to do, because there is no other option where your vote does anything.

                So let’s compare these two:

                -Republicans are 100% behind Israel and genocide. -Democrats are at least split on the topic of Israel and genocide.

                So what’s the right choice to take here? All three options likely lead to more genocide. Not voting doesn’t change anything because politicians care about being voted into office, and non-voters don’t stop them from getting into office.

                So to circle back to the beginning:

                Whataboutism means that you bring up an unrelated topic of something that’s maybe worse to make something else seem less bad.

                For example: “I don’t do anything to save the environment, because my neighbor drives a massive truck.”

                Whataboutism does not apply if you are comparing two related points to each other, e.g. “I vote for A, because voting for B is worse and there are no other choices.”

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                  What a sophomoric little shit.

                  Democrats are at least split on the topic of Israel and genocide

                  You live entirely in your own head. Why don’t you go out and try to find something from the real world that reflects this assumption you call a fact?

                  Google: Rashida Tlaib. And sort by new.

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                    Again a troll who thinks using swear words is an argumentation.

                    Also, have you pondered the fact, that almost every comment of yours has only downvotes?