“We recognize that, in the next four years, our decision may cause us to have an even more difficult time. But we believe that this will give us a chance to recalibrate, and the Democrats will have to consider whether they want our votes or not.”
That’s gotta be one of the strangest reasonings I’ve heard in a while.
It’s notable that the Republicans have not attempted to court the pro Palestinian voters in reaction to the anger at Biden. Because they are if anything more pro Israel / anti Palestine than the Democrats.
I agree that the Dems are the “only slightly better” party in a few aspects, and they need to do better. But slightly better is still better than the alternative and we need to vote like it.
I use a taxi analogy often when it comes to issues like this. You’re on 8th Street and want to get to 1st Street. There are two taxis in front of you a Blue Taxi and a Red Taxi. The Blue Taxi will take you to 4th Street. The Red Taxi will take you to 21st Street before beating you up and leaving you for dead in the gutter.
Which taxi do you take?
Note: “Neither” isn’t an option because if you don’t choose, then some random people choose for you and shove you in the taxi.
Yes, neither taxi takes you to your destination, but the Blue taxi is a lot easier to recover from and reach your destination than the Red taxi.
Would it be better if you had a taxi that took you to your exact destination? Definitely, but this is where realism meets idealism. In the real world, you rarely have perfect options. You often need to decide which option is closest to perfect for you. In this case, the Democrats/Blue taxi are flawed but are worlds better than the Republicans/Red taxi.
This exceedingly simple logic seems beyond a good portion of the US population.
Blue taxi runs out of gas halfway there because the red taxi siphoned it out for their own use.
Yet in a state where you WILL be shoved in a blue or red taxi no matter what (say, CA for blue), you could vote for a green taxi stand to be put there so at least next time there are more options - or at least the blue taxi will deliver you to 3rd street.
The problem is that the blue taxi only promises to take you to 4th. When you get in, it just sits there. When you ask the driver why he’s not moving, he insists that he is and tells you that you must be from the other cab company. If you try to get out and walk, he screams at you. As long as you’re in the cab and not perfectly silent about wanting to get any closer to your destination, the driver screams at you. Eventually the driver gets mad if you’re not smiling.
Not great, sure, but I still have all my teeth.
With blue taxis, you could run for driver. With red taxis, you get what you get.
Slightly better?
Here’s a GOP calling for death to all Palestinians.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/republican-calls-for-all-palestinians-to-die-in-viral-video/ar-AA1jHM13
They’re all paying for it enthusiastically. I don’t care if some posture differently personally.
The Biden administration is doing the “death to all Palestinians”.
There is no difference.
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If you still think there is a difference then LMAO
“lmAO” 🤡
How the fuck do you figure? Is Biden at the front? Are any American soldiers bombing Palestinians? No and no.
This may come as a surprise to you, but the president of the United States is not also the president of Israel. That’s a completely different person. It’s a different country.
Yeah giving all the bombs and Intel to the israelis totally isn’t complicit.
The president of israel is the president of United States though. That much is painfully obvious.
I dunno if people know Biden’s past as a darling of the Israel lobby. Obama used to attend pro-Palestinian events and knows very well what’s going on, part of why he picked Biden was because he was disliked by the Israel lobby, and that was his way of courting them. Of course at the helm he had to go back on his views. That’s kind of the point here too, what’s in the best interest of US foreign policy is largely determined by the military industrial complex, voters don’t have a say in this really. Neither does the President in a lot of respects either, because furthering the country’s foreign policy is more about what America is to the world than what the parties are to Americans.
Given Biden’s poor polling in basically every swing state against Trump the party should really be picking a better candidate if they want a guaranteed victory in the election. I’d be doing the same as these Muslim groups if I was in the US because I’d want the Democrats to win, I don’t see a way forward for this right now without the party stepping up with some major changes. What I see instead are Democrat voters shaming potential Democrat voters in to voting instead of demanding the party do better, and yes it’s true if those people voted we wouldn’t get Trump again, but saying as much is more about validating your position than actually doing the work to get that victory. I feel like at this point Democrat voters are just going to shame people for caring about genocide and there’s no way that’s going to get them votes, probably more the opposite.
I mean the reality here is just that you and I want different things. I don’t want the Democrat party to “do better” in any some ways you want, and you don’t want them to “do better” in some ways I want. That’s just what being in a coalition is, and Dems are a very broad coalition
When was the last time the party did better in ways you didn’t want?
To be clear by “do better” I mean appeal to most voters, which means transferring politics that have broad support in to policies. Right now they provide policy and basically invent the politics to underlie it.
Also let’s be clear what’s being asked of Muslim voters right now, “support the fascist genocide against your people vicariously by supporting the Democrats, because the alternative will be worse.” That’s a BIG ask, that’s why it’s never addressed directly and diverted with “this is the best you can get.” To then shame those voters and blame them for worsening the situation… you’re telling them this system requires them to die one way or another. I don’t blame them one bit for taking this position.
Thank you. You said this much more nicely than I could.