I ended up linking neoliberal sources and was just ignored and downvoted lol.

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    I get sucked in to a lot of pointless online arguments but I draw the line at proper spelling and coherent sentences.

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    Stalin oppressed the poles by restoring their borders to a state not seen since the early medieval ages and deported German settlers from the country. Ah but of course, the polish conquests of Belarusian, Lithuanian and ukrainian territory were “rightful polish clay” though right? These guys have no understanding of history whatsoever.

    Bonus points for equating the Holocaust with the holodomor and the great leap forward (?). No one denies that people died during the holodomor, the argument is that there isn’t any evidence it was an intentional genocide of ukranians. Nazis argue that literally no one died during the Holocaust, it was all fake, the camps, the mass graves, everything.

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        A most idiotic move, even by the standard of prewar idiocy.

        Fun fact was that it was actually somewhat justified by the standard of the era, since that small part had actually a polish majority and were occupied by Czechoslovakian army after WW1 (probably for strategic reasons), but the pettiness of such revanchism was stunning and the timing was absolutely horrendous. And so, Poland become vulture for the nazi predator for basically no reason.

        Nowadays the issue is settled, there are mostly Czech people living there and not even the craziest nationalists in Poland mention it.

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    Nobody said Stalin “cared about the Poles” (to use their words)? You just said Stalin wanted to send troops to the German-Poland to invade Germany.

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      Also he did cared about Poles. He was against idea to escalate war with Poland in 1920, he had excellent communication and took active part in setting up socialist Poland in 1944-52, he personally intervened to further up polish interests and requests to the western allies, including handing over nazi war criminals, his deal with De Gaulle significantly eased up recognition of socialist Poland in the west, he advocated for the border changes which ended up with Poland recieving very valuable lands of Silesia, parts of Greater Poland and Pomerania at the cost of Germany, oversaw the relocation of people and borders at the east which made Poland a very united country in every respect, sent one the best soviet generals Rokossowski (ethnic Pole) to build up military potential of Poland while also sending substantial material support (it was huge success, polish army was one of the strongest in Warsaw Pact as a result).