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    the money Iā€™d pay to Netflix or Spotify wonā€™t actually go to the artists who worked on the stuff

    Not enough of the money goes to the artist, but money does go to the artists. If youā€™re not sure, ask literally any artist who has their content featured on netflix, or any of the other platforms.

    Money also goes to the marketing team, and software developers, and internationalization teams, and all the other people in the chain who actually do have a purpose and make that artistā€™s content more available to the world than it otherwise would be.

    But theyā€™re always going to take more than they should, thatā€™s just called inefficiency, and is where competition can happen. But if itā€™s not generating enough income, the content simply wonā€™t happen.

    Which is honestly fine with me, lord knows we have too much garbage on these platforms.

    Most imortantly: I donā€™t want to shame anyone for pay/not paying, as I usually donā€™t know their financial situtation.

    Totally agree. I felt I was very clear that I myself pirated when I couldnā€™t afford to pay, which is consistent with the belief that you should pay what you can afford.

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      Not enough of the money goes to the artist, but money does go to the artists. If youā€™re not sure, ask literally any artist who has their content featured on netflix, or any of the other platforms.

      Really depends on the industry. E.g for games: The devs were already payed their salary and usually donā€™t get residuals. Here the money goes to the publisher/studio. As I already said: I pay for the indie games I play singe I want these studios to be able to exist/pay their devs. But the money Iā€™d spend on Call of Duty will mostly go to Bobby Kotick and his shareholders.

      Money also goes to the marketing team, and software developers, and internationalization teams, and all the other people in the chain who actually do have a purpose and make that artistā€™s content more available to the world than it otherwise would be.

      Those people donā€™t get residuals, but wages. Yes, the money has to come from somewhere. But the animators of a Netflix show Iā€™m watching where already payed. Yes, the people currently working on stuff that will come out in the future still need wages, but letā€™s not forget that most of the money Iā€™d pay will go to shareholders.

      But theyā€™re always going to take more than they should, thatā€™s just called inefficiency, and is where competition can happen. But if itā€™s not generating enough income, the content simply wonā€™t happen.

      I donā€™t really care for this liberal narrative.

      Which is honestly fine with me, lord knows we have too much garbage on these platforms.

      So, people who make that ā€œgarbageā€ donā€™t deserve to pay their rent? Either be defending the poor workers or be a market extremist. Pick a lane, my dog.

      that you should pay what you can afford.

      I donā€™t think people should be ripped off though. Which is what I think is happening with the big platforms.

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        But the money Iā€™d spend on Call of Duty will mostly go to Bobby Kotick and his shareholdersā€¦Yes, the people currently working on stuff that will come out in the future still need wages, but letā€™s not forget that most of the money Iā€™d pay will go to shareholders.

        Yes, more than should, sure, weā€™re saying the same thing.

        And then I said:

        But if itā€™s not generating enough income, the content simply wonā€™t happenā€¦Which is honestly fine with me, lord knows we have too much garbage on these platforms.

        To which you responded:

        So, people who make that ā€œgarbageā€ donā€™t deserve to pay their rent? Either be defending the poor workers or be a market extremist. Pick a lane, my dog.

        Which is a textbook straw man. And then thereā€™s this gem:

        I donā€™t really care for this liberal narrative.

        So yeah, I think weā€™re done here. Bye.

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          Why are you mad that I call your stuff about ā€œcompetitionā€ and ā€œinefficienciesā€ a ā€œliberal narrativeā€? Thatā€™s what the liberal market economids are supposed to be. How did you interpret it exactly?

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            11 months ago

            You ever find yourself in a discussion where it is abundantly evident that the other person is too ill-equipped to contribute meaningfully to the discussion, but also openly obstinate and reductive in the face of anything they donā€™t understand?

            Itā€™s impossible to not be condescending in that situation, Iā€™ve already done it enough, and Iā€™d rather not continue. Cheers.

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              Itā€™s impossible to not be condescending in that situation

              Skill issue, asshole.