Google delayed long enough to secure its ad business with new tracking methods.
      • lad@programming.devEnglish
        2·
        11 months ago

        I thought privacy as per Google meant that it will trade your data with everyone interested, just will not show them your name/phone number/address (which also quite conveniently makes Google the single point of contact with you and allows to charge more)

        • RandomPancake@lemmy.worldEnglish
          111·
          11 months ago

          I know people are passionate about their love / hated of Brave, but it along with LibreWolf (and Firefox) all offer strong fingerprinting protection out of the box. With Firefox, just make sure you add uBlock Origin.

        • jaybone@lemmy.worldEnglish
          12·
          11 months ago

          Wait Firefox sends fingerprint info?

          Why is there not an open source browser that doesn’t send this shit?

          • prograhammingdev@lemmy.prograhamming.comEnglish
            9·
            11 months ago

            Firefox does not “send” it, fingerprinting is done by tagging your hardware configuration from various values and create a unique key from that - independent of being logged in or any cookies - which can be used to track you. Things like browser & device user agent, browser window size, feature support (to determine browser version), etc. All of which are passively gathered by anything you could send a request to. There are ways to reduce this that Firefox and others do (such as reducing unique values in user agent, etc) but they’re not opting in to some privacy invading reporting mechanism.

            • jaybone@lemmy.worldEnglish
              1·
              11 months ago

              But the “various values” are sent, like you mention user agent, etc. I wonder if it makes sense to have a browser that doesn’t send all of that.

    • phoneymouse@lemmy.worldEnglish
      201·
      11 months ago

      Yeah they analyze your browser history and then generate labels of things you’re presumably interested in and then share it with any website that asks. Privacy friendly alright.

  • FrostyTrichs@lemmy.worldEnglish
    302·
    11 months ago

    It would be nice to have the option to not just block your data from being accessible to a 3rd party but also feedback junk data into the system. Pollute the data stream until it’s no longer useful to the powers that be while still retaining functionality for the user.

    One can dream.

  • tsonfeir@lemm.eeEnglish
    293·
    11 months ago

    What about all the other hidden cookies it sets for the right price? ;)

  • _s10e@feddit.deEnglish
    162·
    11 months ago

    So what exactly are 3rd party cookies?

    I’m on a.com, that is what’s shown in the address bar.

    The page includes a resource a.com/image.png. A request the server will include cookies from a.com. That’s a 1st party cookie. Correct?

    The page includes a resource b.com/image.png. The request will not include cookies from a.com; this was always the case. b.com can however set their own cookies. Since we are on a.com, cookies from b.com are ‘third party’. Correct?

    It gets interesting when we navigate to c.com and c.com includes b.com/image.png, a tracking pixel we have seen before on a.com.

    Without 3rd party cookie protection, b.com sees the cookie they set previously while on a.com. This will now be blocked. Correct?

    Now explain this in a Javascript world.

    • phoneymouse@lemmy.worldEnglish
      111·
      11 months ago

      Open up developer tools and look at the network requests just about any website you visit makes. Logged in to facebook.com and then went to visit a.com? Well, a.com has a Facebook like button and script delivered to your browser when you load their page that allows Facebook to figure out that your logged in Facebook user id visited a.com. Not only did you do that, but you hovered over a button to buy boots for 3 seconds and didn’t click. Now, Facebook calls home with the knowledge user 827027 is a potential boot buyer and can spam them with boot ads.

      Interestingly, a.com also loads about 30 other scripts from other ad networks and trackers, including Google, and similarly lets them call home with info stored in their respective third party cookies.

    • simonced@lemmy.oneEnglish
      3·
      11 months ago

      I am not sure, but I think browsers will block access to third party cookies from javascript. In your example, c.com/script.js will not be able to access b.com cookies. Now, when the browser sends the request to b.com/image.png, browsers will NOT send the cookies associated with b.com when visiting other domains than b.com. BUT, the request might contains a “referer” info set by the browser, hence b.com can still track you. This is something that some browsers block already, but as a web developer, I always see referers in the logs, so it’s either not working, or it is opt-in in the options, and normies don’t change it…

    • Praise Idleness@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
      76·
      11 months ago

      You’re correct about first-party cookies being from the domain in the address bar, like a.com in your example. When a page from a.com includes a resource from b.com, and b.com sets cookies, those are considered third-party cookies.

      In a scenario where you navigate to c.com, which includes a resource (e.g., tracking pixel) from b.com, without third-party cookie protection, b.com would indeed have access to the cookies it set previously while you were on a.com. However, with 3rd party cookie protection measures, the browser restricts this access. This can impact user tracking and privacy.

      In the JavaScript world, this is often managed through mechanisms like the SameSite attribute for cookies and technologies like ITP (Intelligent Tracking Prevention) in browsers. Developers need to adapt their code to these privacy measures to ensure compliance and user privacy.

      • GPT3.5
  • AutoTL;DR@lemmings.worldBEnglish
    21·
    11 months ago

    This is the best summary I could come up with:

    Chrome has finally announced plans to kill third-party cookies.

    Google’s blog post calls the rollout “Tracking Protection” and says the first tests will begin on January 4, where 1 percent of Chrome users will get the feature.

    The rollout comes with some new UI bits for Chrome, with Google saying, “If a site doesn’t work without third-party cookies and Chrome notices you’re having issues—like if you refresh a page multiple times—we’ll prompt you with an option to temporarily re-enable third-party cookies for that website from the eye icon on the right side of your address bar.”

    Chrome’s Privacy Sandbox switch represents the world’s most popular browser (Google Chrome) integrating with the web’s biggest advertising platform (Google Ads) and shutting down alternative tracking methods used by competing ad companies.

    Google says its choice to offer this privacy feature four years after its competitors is a “responsible approach” to phasing out third-party cookies.

    Google’s position as the world’s biggest browser vendor allowed it to delay the death of tracking cookies long enough to create an alternative tracking system, which launched earlier this year in Chrome.

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