• soft_frog@kbin.social
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    11 months ago

    Yeah this whole thing isn’t simple. Even if he’s cleared of charges, these allegations are old and that makes them hard to prove or disprove.

    Further, the quantity is concerning. Maybe he’s just prolifically sexual but my gut can’t really get passed how many accusations there are over such a long span of time. Even if innocent, still creepy is my opinion.

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      11 months ago

      In general, any multimillionaire that gets off of a serious charge doesn’t mean they’re innocent.

      It just another example of having ridiculous amounts of money in our legal system means it’s really hard to be hel accountable.

      Hell, trump got off of beating and raping his wife, because of an old ass New York law that said a husband can’t rape his wife under any circumstance.

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        In general, any multimillionaire that gets off of a serious charge doesn’t mean they’re innocent.

        Don’t forget the flip-side of that - the prisons are full of poor people who do not deserve to be there. It’s almost as if the system was designed to be like this…

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        11 months ago

        Also, being a multimillionaire puts a target on your back. I’ll never forget the story about a man who already had a couple of million winning a huge lottery and how lawsuits, among other ever worse things, destroyed his life.

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      11 months ago

      the quantity is concerning

      And also not admissible in a criminal court. That’s part of the problem. If you look at the big picture, it’s obvious he did it, but it’s not as easy to prove it in criminal court.

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        11 months ago

        Is it really obvious that he did something, or is it obvious that he’s another gay man being attacked for daring to publicly admit that he’s gay? Sure there’s a lot of allegations, but many of them were dropped by the accusers, and as the article points out there was a huge rush of “me too” allegations brought out against many people at the same time because it was the trending get-rich-quick scheme. Even in Spacey’s case, why did most of these allegations not come out until he admitted he was gay?

        IMHO if Spacey is actually guilty of these crimes, he’s going to be blackballed by all the studios and won’t ever be seen on the screen again. Although the courts didn’t prove him guilty, the studios know who is doing what, and in today’s market any further allegations will cost them money.

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          Even in Spacey’s case, why did most of these allegations not come out until he admitted he was gay?

          I think it went the other way around, didn’t it? At least the first accusations came out, and he used the occasion to say “I didn’t do that! But now that I’m talking about this stuff, by the way I’m gay.”

          It wasn’t a great look, because it came across that he tried to deflect the accusations by coming out as gay.

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            11 months ago

            True enough, and he caught hell for the timing of that announcement. There’s also the issue of there just being such a different culture of what’s “acceptable” in Hollywood. I think it’s great that it finally came to light and those activities were at least tempered somewhat, but I also remember reading a lot of claims a decade ago and just thinking to myself that this is something you’re claiming ‘everyone’ in Hollywood is doing, but you chose to specifically target this one actor? The “me too” train was real, and a lot of people were going after big name actors, so I got burnt out on the whole thing and just stopped paying any attention to it.

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      11 months ago

      Yet suggest Pee-wee Herman is creepy and you get downvoted. Even though without question he was caught with illegal material.