• WetBeardHairs@lemmy.ml
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    One is a neoliberal that embraces a political philosophy where you turn a blind eye to suffering abroad for stability and prosperity at home.

    The other is a wannabe dictator that repeatedly echos hitler and will lead to civil war where your neighbors, family, and yourself are put at risk of death and the destruction of your livelyhood.

    One of them is more imminently dangerous to the voters who are tasked with casting votes.

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      He’s not turning a blind eye, he’s actively facilitating a genocide.

      Many people are more moral than you and refuse to support anyone supporting a genocide.

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        “Turning a blind eye” - that guy

        “There will absolutely not be any conditions on our aid to Isreal, the only condition is defending isreal” - Biden

        Sounds like he’s got his eye pretty squarely on the prize to me

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        If there were a viable third option I would vote for them. Being moral in this situation means Trump would get elected and my family would be victims of political violence while that same apathetic blind eye turns away from us. It’s a personal threat to my physical safety if Trump is elected.

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            Yes. It’s not my job to stop all the wars in the world. I’m not going to sacrifice myself for that because it wouldn’t make a difference.

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              I’m not asking you to be a superhero who ends all war, I’m telling you that when you support Joe Biden you’re actively supporting a current ongoing genocide that he’s facilitating. It’s not that I’m criticizing you for not doing enough for others, I’m criticizing you for actively aiding a genocide. All you have to do is stop doing that.

              People who decline to aid and abet a genocide are a better people than people who agree to help aid and abet that genocide.

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                I don’t support his actions.
                But I have to vote against trump or else my family and myself will be dragged from our home and shot by radicals.
                A vote for anyone but Biden is a vote for Trump in my state.

                I’m working to move away from these radicals but it’s expensive and time consuming and I likely will not be able to do that before the 24 election

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                  Voting for someone is literally supporting his actions.

                  You’ll be complicit in a genocide for the rest of your life. I recognize that this won’t sway you but I want you to know what good people are going to think of you going forward.

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                Who says I give a fuck about humanity? We’ve shown ourselves time and time again to do the selfish thing to fuck people over. Guess what? I’m one of them. My selfish thing is “I don’t want to be murdered by terrorists.” There are terrorists over there and there are terrorists next door. Which one is imminently a threat to me? Not the one that is across the planet. But the second Trump gets power, he has said he will not prosecute terrorists.

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                  Ugh, another “Humans are inherently bad” edgelord projecting their solipsism and historical illiteracy for all to see. If humans are so bad, why are you so concerned with sparing yourself, or with who dies for that matter? No, your faux-world weary nihilism is just a paper-thin cover for your atavistic selfishness. You don’t want to have to think about the mountain of skulls we were born on top of, you just want to go back to consuming cheap treats while the real terrorists do the killing for you, and you can’t even be bothered to construct more than the most half-assed epistemology to soothe the little part of you that knows you’re choosing to be a monster.

                  Fascism isn’t a risk or a possibility, it’s fucking here. It’s been here, except it’s not evenly distributed. It will continue to be unevenly distributed even after it engulfs you, and you will look back and see your former cohort making excuses and reassuring themselves that there was nothing poor little them could have done to save you. First they came for the communists, then they came for the immigrants, then they came for the lgbtq, now they’re coming for the Palestinians. You can either cower and smugly support their genocides until they come for you too, or you can realize that no individual ever makes a difference, and throw your weight in with the mass of humanity who you currently oppose with your dead-end ideological lethargy. “Oh you have to vote for the blue genocider and not the red one”, how about fuck that, both of those ghouls and the empire they serve must die so that humanity can live.

                  if you really want to make the sane and realistic choice at this juncture in history, then it’s time to grow the fuck up and become a communist.

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          Do you think Biden doing the same shit as Trump but under the banner of civil rights and progressivism could be deletrious to the goals of those movements here?

          Admittedly he did throw $4B at green hydrogen as we fall behind Namibia and Mongolia in green energy production. 😒

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            If there were a viable third option I would vote for them. Being moral in this situation means Trump would get elected and my family would be victims of political violence while that same apathetic blind eye turns away from us. It’s a personal threat to my physical safety if Trump is elected.

            I politically align with Repugnicans by about 2%, Democrats by about 10%. I don’t want either. But I only have 1/300,000,000 shares of power in America to enact my will and it is “i don’t want to be dragged from my home and shot”. And yes, that does mean I am voting in the interest of myself not being dragged from my home and shot while the president actively throws bombs on a warzone where that happens to other people on the other side of the planet. It fucking sucks. But being moral here will result in my fucking death.

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              Biden isn’t saving anyone. Reactionaries think neoliberal policies being implemented by Biden are communism, they think Lula is communist.

              The democratic party is a shambling pile of donors that’s why they need Hillary. They feed off of us.

              Biden is worse than Trump, and Trump 2 will ge worse than Biden. Every president is exponentially worse than the last.