Here, I am going to complain about my problems in Matrix :) Iām liking its vision and features and I want to use it but Iāve got lots of problems while using it. Is it just me or general thing? Iāve tried Element, Element X, Fluffy Chat and Cinny so far.
My problems are;
- I got message notification but it did not showed on chat page with Element. I had to use another client.
- I couldnāt accept private chat invite from someone in Element X, Iāve used Cinny to accept it.
- Couldnāt use group tag? (like #group@server) someone send me to join to that chat group in Element, Element X and Fluffy Chat. Cinny worked tho.
- I was not able to verify Cinny session with other devices. It stuck in loading screen.
- Some messages says āwaiting for this messageā in Element (and X) but I can see them in Fluffy.
- Message threads are only working with Element. It doesnāt works on Fluffy and Element X. Didnāt tried Cinny.
- I canāt browse older messages in chat groups. It just stays in loading.
Probably there are other problems too that I donāt remember. Why are these apps (or Matrix) this broken? Or am I doing something wrong? š
Please report your bugs! If they are repeatable, use the documentation process to let the devs know so they can fix them.
Doing that helps make the experience better for everybody.
Element X is still in production, mostly should be threated as beta. Element is going to be depracated when Element X is ready. FlufflyChat and Cinny are build in free time by community and do not have resources to adopt to currently fast changing Matrix APIs. Fractal was just recently rewritten to use the same SDK and base as Element X.
Awesome project, but many things are rewritten or in the working now.
You know I tried to use element the other day and couldnāt even get it to load in the fucking invite code so I said forget it.
Shits still fairly young yet, as more interest develops in this whole sort of universe, talent and time spendable on these projects will increase.
You could always volunteer yourself if they offer that with their dev people! Not sure though
As its homepage says, they rewrote Element X from the ground. And it aināt stable too. I donāt know if it worth the time now. It is not fully encrypted too. To me, it was a bad onboarding experience.
I mean same, so far the entire experience from onboarding to gen usage wasā¦ C at best.
Hereās to hoping tho and staying positive about the future. We donāt gotta sell it short
@stevedidwhat_infosec @syd what invite code? On what site did you go? Thereās no invite code on the servers I know
It was an invite to a specific server or something like that, I might be able to join via manual adding but at that point I wasnāt that interested in joining or using the product anymore (for a short while until it might come up again in the future and I give it another go)
Wasnāt a huge deal just a turn off from the product really
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Thx. Iāll try with fresh Schildi first and then maybe Element after. Probably I did something wrong at some point. Youāre right about donations.
I kinda agree with the statement that the Matrix āecosystemā is unstable, but Iāve been looking at it for some time now (Itās more than a year that Iām periodically giving it a try, but without having asked my friends or family to move yet) and what Iāve seen is some slow solid progress. So Iāll probably keep watching (and contribute if possible) its growth until there will be at least a desktop and a mobile client that works flawlessly out of the box, and then proceed to annoying any person with why they should move to Matrix (_)
Some non-requested personal opinions about the clients I tried:
- I think that the desktop/web version of Element is kinda stable, but the android and iOS versions are a big no to me (with this I mean they are not ready to be recommended to non tech-savy people imho).
- Element X as many others said itās still in beta, but I see huge potential on it. And Iād say that as soon as they manage to implement onboarding (like registering through the app) and proper āmessage repliesā and threads it could be already pretty stable and usable from everyone.
- Fluffy Chat last time I tried was reeeally unstable, but itās been a while and maybe there were good progresses there as well (it must be kept in mind that itās volunteers-driven and not backed by a company as Element is)
- Cinny and Fragment seems very interesting too, but havenāt found the time to try them out properly yet.
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Iāve checked that too. It says it is Element fork, so I thought both would have same bugs. But Iāll try, thanks!
I have tons of bugs and frustrations with Element, and none with Schildichat.
Is it has same features like threads?
As far as I can tell, it has full feature parity with Element.
Did you verify all of your sessions? AFAIK element x is still prerelease and is likely still very buggy. You should try schildichat
I saw another lemming suggesting Schildi. Iāll try it š Also Iām not sure if I verified all sessions. Iāll check when Iām home. Thank you for your answer š
