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    I as a Canadian just don’t get the appeal. He’s not handsome by any stretch so there’s no ascetic attraction.

    He’s not nearly as wealthy as he claims he is so it can’t be admiration for his success.

    He’s got zero charisma so it can’t be his charm.

    He’s as dumb as a pile of rocks so it can’t be they admire his intelligence.

    He’s got the athletic prowess of a half dead goldfish and the skin tone of one so it can’t be his physical ability.

    I honestly just can’t fathom the appeal.

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      He appeals to the hateful, and the stupid. He wants to hurt the people they want hurt. It’s that simple.

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      I imagine if you were also as dumb as a pile of rocks you’d think he was perfectly smart.

      There is no appeal, they’re just too stupid to understand his flaws.

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      We are talking about Americans here. They aren’t the brightest people. So to most of these points they think the opposite.

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      Because legacy, independent, and basement medias are constantly beaming images of Trump at them, and when they’re given no other option of ideas that’s the only one they know. That’s why I find it hard to believe that Trump is a Russian asset, then it would mean the media is also owned by Russians, but they’re not, they’re owned by Western billionaires. Trump has been engineered by the ruling class, and so has his popularity.

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        You think that Donald Trump won because too many people saw his picture on TV?

        I’m going to say he won because he said the quiet part out loud and a good chunk of Americans are just dumb bigoted fucks. Especially now.

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          Ding!! The ruling class used Trump to weaponize bigotry.

          Whats fucked up is as I’ve watched all of this unfold, I can’t help but briefly entertain the idea that those fuckers all decided to do their own version of Richmond Valentine’s Plan from Kingsman:

          When you get a virus, you get a fever. That’s the human body raising its core temperature to kill the virus. Planet Earth works the same way: global warming is the fever, mankind is the virus. We’re making our planet sick. A cull is our only hope. If we don’t reduce our population ourselves, there’s only one or two ways this can go: the host kills the virus, or the virus kills the host. Either way…

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      I think that when a person with a relatively normal level of intelligence hears the word salad that Trump routinely strings together, their response is usually along the lines of: “What the hell is that idiot saying now?”

      But when a MAGAT hears him speak, they think: “Well shit. I can’t understand what he’s saying, and I think I’m pretty smart, so he must be a genius!”

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      A big part of it that few are willing to look at is the that it is a reaction to the rapid, forceful acceptance of transgender issues in our society and i totally get it. Im not willing to support fascism though just cause i want things to change… im also not willing to argue about this with anyone cause people on both sides of this issue are as closed minded as it gets. edit: i’ve indulged this more than i planned on. i’m now done responding. I’d be happy to explain myself further, even arguing, but the LGBTQ agenda has taken over the internet and anything i have to say that goes against it gets removed because i’m “being a bigot.”… this is fascism guys. MAGA is fascist, LGBTQ is fascist… go ahead and take my words down now. Have a nice day.

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        rapid, forceful acceptance of transgender issues in our society

        Oh! How terrible for you! How can you possibly manage to live your life now that you’re aware of other people’s hardships? This is totally unfair for you!

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          It’s less about trans people existing, and more about catering our society around a tiny subsection of people taking drugs to modify their appearance.

          It’s controversial to say men have penises these days because people are immediately jumping down our throat saying that’s not the case.

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            What part of our society is catering to them? The part where we decide it’s wrong to attack them because they are transgender? The part where we think it’s okay for them to have the same rights as everyone else? Please tell.

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                Not to take away from your message, but what you’ve called out is under the umbrella of ‘intersex’ and genetic disorders, not necessarily trans. There can be large overlap between the two, but they are separate things.

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              Why is it any time there’s the smallest opposition to anything trans it immediately swings to the extreme?

              I never mentioned anything about denying their safety or talking about limiting rights.

              It’s legal in America, they can already do what they want. Which is far better than a majority of the world, where you can’t even be gay.

              People are pushing back on the rewriting of deeply entrenched societal norms. Latinx and all that other bullshit.

              Be trans, don’t force us to participate in your delusion with you.

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                I’m actually not trans, but I’ve never felt like anyone was “forcing me to participate” in trans culture or society. On the other hand, I have often felt like religious people were pressuring me into their system of beliefs, so if we’re worrying about that sort of pressure, then we should start there.

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                You know you sound like a nazi and yet you keep repeating the same nazi propaganda.

                Do you complain about accommodation for anyone else? 🤔 All you have to do is literally not say something offensive to a trans person. That’s it. You don’t have to like trans people, you don’t have to like gay people. Hell, you don’t even have to like black people if you’re a racist. BUT YOU HAVE TO LEAVE THEM ALONE. That is literally all you’re required to do. If leaving people alone is a problem I’m afraid it’s a you problem.

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                  This shit right here

                  You’re blurring the line between actual extremists who seek to physically harm and completely erase trans people, and moderate people with mild criticisms.

                  Because we don’t want exactly what you want, we’re Nazi’s.

                  You’re welcome to delude yourselves, you are allotted that freedom. Don’t call us transphobes because we don’t want to date you. Don’t call us transphobes because we don’t want to remove all form of gender from language (Latinx). Don’t call us transphobes because we misgendered you on account of your massive fucking adams apple and deep voice.

                  I’ve been nice to every trans person I’ve come across in my life, and don’t voice my opinions to them.

                  I’m not the problem. Go after the radicals who seek to erase freedoms.

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                    You can’t keep your mouth shut. I’m sure this isn’t the only place you harass trans people online and I’m sure you do it in real life too.

                    All you have to do is leave people the fuck alone, that’s it. If all you lot Just. Left. People. Alone. There wouldn’t be a problem but you can’t even do that. That’s why trans people, hell, any person from a marginalized community has to fear for their safety. You just can’t leave them alone.

                    Have a nice day.

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          I didn’t say im not willing to change my mind, i said im not willing to argue about it… with people on the internet

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          I didn’t say im not willing to change my mind, i said im not willing to argue about it… with people on the internet

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        Hate to tell you but I’m non binary. I’m 49 and knew in 1978 that I was the wrong gender.

        I’m also neurodivergent and there is compelling evidence that there is a connection between gender dysphoria and neurodivergant disorders like adhd and autism.

        Maybe accepting trans people is simply learning to accept that people are built different and that something that is part of a person’s disability should be accepted because people with disabilities should be accepted.

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          You’re welcome to believe whatever you want to believe but i don’t believe you and i’m not going to argue about it. Have a nice day.

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              This is a belief that people have, i do not share their belief but i still hope they have a nice day. take it or leave it, im not going to explain any further.

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            I love how you transphobes think that you know some stranger’s internal life much better than they know it themselves. So fucking arrogant.

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        As a trans person, I absolutely disagree with you on that topic. But I do agree that a lot of the people supporting trump are single-issue voters, whether it be LGBT rights, abortion, immigration, etc.

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        You know, just placing “being a bigot” in quotation marks doesn’t make you not a bigot. You are very much a bigot. Like, the very definition of one. So if you’ve got a problem with that, I suggest you take it up with Merriam-Webster.