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    I would argue Rogue would does not benefit from society and remaining lowers her chance of survival because ordinary humans want to kill mutants. See magnetos origin story. Without Professor X’s intervention Rogue would have been killed or she would would have embraced her powers and fought for survival.

    As for if she would be a new species, you don’t have to purposedully inbreed anyone. It would just be a natural part of population growth. It eventually becomes inevitable.

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      That’s the definition of a new species however. Until Rogue’s progeny can no longer have viable offspring with anyone except themselves, they aren’t a separate species, let alone genus. This is why dog breeds aren’t different species. They may be different, but they can still have children together that can go on to have other children.

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        I would also argue this is a fictional version of evolution where giant fantastical leaps in genetics are possible and you can’t really apply evolution theory as we currently understand it. I do accept my understanding is limited so I did change my OP but really some of this stuff may be decided if we get deeper into xmen lore.

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            Either way, I give up. I tried to do my best magneto but people weren’t feeling it. I’ll work on it, I guess.

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              As I get older, I come to realize that Magneto and Xavier needed each other. Both of their philosophies were required. Peaceful resistance must recognize when violence is needed to maintain peace and safe lives. Violent resistance must recognize it is the last tool, not the first, and that you can win many hearts and minds with peaceful methods. Peaceful resistance will otherwise die a quiet death as all are killed, and violent resistance will otherwise die a loud death as all are killed. The former inspires support by those who cannot believe the inhumanity of the opposition. The latter inspires support by survivors who launch guerilla attacks.

              But neither succeed.

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                I read somewhere that Xavier was likened as MLK and Magneto as Malcom X.

                Malcom was very problematic in many ways but he does make a lot of correct assements about the dynamics of oppression. Given Malcolm’s background mixed with his unabashed stubbornness I give him respect. He was wrong about a lot of things but he wasn’t afraid to stand up to anyone and have strong convictions.