• NoneOfUrBusiness@kbin.social
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    10 months ago

    That’s not true. Muslims agree with Republicans on LGBT rights and similar things, but that’s about it. There’s a reason Michigan Arabs tend to vote Democrat and speaking as a Muslim that’s probably because Republican nonsense like “being poor is personal responsibility and nobody has any responsibility to help you” doesn’t resonate with Muslims.

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      Abortion, abstinence, women’s subservience. American Arabs vote democrat because the republicans would be happy if they were dead.

      But if you asked a practicing Muslim and a republican for their views on a wide range of issues except which god you worship, you’ll find there are many more similarities than you are suggesting.

      Famous for their distributing the wealth to people who need it, the UAE, Saudi Arabia, and Qatar are positively wonderful places for the working class 🙄

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        Famous for their distributing the wealth to people who need it, the UAE, Saudi Arabia, and Qatar are positively wonderful places for the working class 🙄

        I mean those countries aren’t the shining examples of Islam at work so yeah. Gulf countries are like famous for this.

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          Which countries are shining examples of Islam at work? I’m having a hard time coming up with any that don’t have staggering wealth inequality.

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            1. We had a leader the west didn’t like so they backed a coup that put in a corrupt dictator that they liked

            2. We had a leader the soviets didn’t like so they backed a coup that put a corrupt dictator in charge that they liked

            3. The country came out of a coup and installed a popular leader that didn’t want to play ball with the west for various reasons, so the west sanctioned the country until its economy barely functioned

            4. A colony was given an independence “deal” that forces them to adopt their former colonizers currency, put about half of their reserves in said former colonizers bank, and forced the newly “independent” country to sell the extraction of its natural resources to companies from the former colonizer at disgustingly cheap prices, so what should be a rich country is still poor and the officials of this former colony are bribed by the colonizers to keep the system going.

            5. The wealthy oil nations used their wealth to give their citizens an extremely good standard of living however either as a result of this or of other reasons (possibly related to culture but thats a different conversation), no one wanted to do menial labor so here comes the importation of cheap foreign labor

            King Faisal Abdul-Aziz was a descent leader that tried to unite the middle east but he was assassinated.

            And Islam allows abortion with different kinds of restrictions depending on your school of thought

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              Is one of those restrictions that the woman, who can’t go anywhere without a male relative, has no say?

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            Most are dictatorships so the attitude of the government doesn’t reflect much except how greedy the elites are, but charity is big in Muslim countries. The whole “pull yourself up by your bootstraps and if you rely on others you’re a leech” attitude doesn’t really resonate with Muslims.

            That said, if I had to raise an example I’d probably pick Tunisia. Not that they don’t have wealth inequality or poverty, but they’re doing decently well for themselves and have a government that’s actually trying to fix these things.

            Also almost all of the non-Gulf Arab world has significant social welfare to my knowledge.

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              Tunisia’s president held a speech against Black African migrants last year which made his people do a genocide on them

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              Charity is a big talking point for Rs too, they just don’t think the state should do any of it. Lots of them still tithe.