Speaking of the live action One Piece adaptation, what did everyone think of how they handled Arlong? They turned him into a Killmonger type character (Fishmonger? ) where he was mostly a mean sadistic gangster with a disdain for humans in the original arc. The manga did establish the oppression faced by fishpeople in depth later on and even gave a backstory to why Arlong and his gang in particular hated humans, but in the Netflix show he was kind of doing a speech in every scene he was in.
I’m glad they’re incorporating things Oda established later on in these early parts but I kind of felt this was once again a situation where the one character using revolutionary language is a violent murderous psychopath
I enjoyed it, but I know the whole story and I think that recontextualises things. Feel like (with that knowledge) it’s a good depiction of how people/movements can get corrupted/lose their ways or the like over time. Nazbols come from somewhere.
Without that though, it’s kinda just another killmonger.
I guess Arlong’s new revolutionary ambitions didn’t quite mesh with his previously established role as some asshole shaking down a hapless backwater village for protection money
Also, an unrelated note- what did he need the Grand Line map for? He’s from there Same goes for Buggy who’s already been there. I know they just used the map as a way to tie the first season together and it’s not a massive deal, but still
I see it more like the reverse happened. Along is what happens you have no theory.
He starts off as a revolutionary and ends up as a petty warlord tyrant. This happens because he no longer has Fisher Tiger (Mao or whatever) to guide him, but instead has to rely on himself. He only half understands the revolutionary theory and this ends up as a sort of fish man Pol Pot.
I would assume the map was just a result of the story being written over 25 years and things changing a little bit. Or it’s some grand metaphor, who knows? Or Arlong couldn’t find his way back thru the waterfall mountain thingy.
Without going back to the manga to check I don’t remember the map as important in it. They needed one to get up the mountain but it wasn’t this larger overarching plot element. Not saying it’s bad or anything, much like with the Garp thing they probably did it to give the first season some structure so it wasn’t just “Luffy and co. bumble from one island to the next and beat up random bad guys”
Yeah, that bit stood out to me too. I wasn’t familiar with the anime or manga, but people here usually talk about it being based. So I was pretty surprised that it felt like they were poisoning the well on revolutionaries.
Speaking of the live action One Piece adaptation, what did everyone think of how they handled Arlong? They turned him into a Killmonger type character (Fishmonger?
) where he was mostly a mean sadistic gangster with a disdain for humans in the original arc. The manga did establish the oppression faced by fishpeople in depth later on and even gave a backstory to why Arlong and his gang in particular hated humans, but in the Netflix show he was kind of doing a speech in every scene he was in.
I’m glad they’re incorporating things Oda established later on in these early parts but I kind of felt this was once again a situation where the one character using revolutionary language is a violent murderous psychopath
I enjoyed it, but I know the whole story and I think that recontextualises things. Feel like (with that knowledge) it’s a good depiction of how people/movements can get corrupted/lose their ways or the like over time. Nazbols come from somewhere.
Without that though, it’s kinda just another killmonger.
I guess Arlong’s new revolutionary ambitions didn’t quite mesh with his previously established role as some asshole shaking down a hapless backwater village for protection money
Also, an unrelated note- what did he need the Grand Line map for? He’s from there
Same goes for Buggy who’s already been there. I know they just used the map as a way to tie the first season together and it’s not a massive deal, but still
I see it more like the reverse happened. Along is what happens you have no theory.
He starts off as a revolutionary and ends up as a petty warlord tyrant. This happens because he no longer has Fisher Tiger (Mao or whatever) to guide him, but instead has to rely on himself. He only half understands the revolutionary theory and this ends up as a sort of fish man Pol Pot.
I would assume the map was just a result of the story being written over 25 years and things changing a little bit. Or it’s some grand metaphor, who knows? Or Arlong couldn’t find his way back thru the waterfall mountain thingy.
Without going back to the manga to check I don’t remember the map as important in it. They needed one to get up the mountain but it wasn’t this larger overarching plot element. Not saying it’s bad or anything, much like with the Garp thing they probably did it to give the first season some structure so it wasn’t just “Luffy and co. bumble from one island to the next and beat up random bad guys”
Yeah, that bit stood out to me too. I wasn’t familiar with the anime or manga, but people here usually talk about it being based. So I was pretty surprised that it felt like they were poisoning the well on revolutionaries.