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    9 months ago

    If self-determination matters that much, then the partition of Germany after WW2 was a severe violation to people’s self-determination of the Germanic people, as well as the British Settlers from Rhodesia, British Raj, and South Africa also had their own to self-determination as well. And yes, it is a common argument used by liberals to justify why settler/colonial nations have the same right of “self-determination” as colonized/indigenous nations as well.

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      9 months ago

      Ngl, I’ve even seen US-NATO PatSocs to use the “self-determination” argument for oppose the balkanization of the USA, of Canada and of the UK while advocating for the Balkanization of all of the BRICS+ countries, of all the AES countries, and of most non-Anglosphere countries.

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        9 months ago

        And also, I’ve seen lots of Brazilian PatSocs using the “self-determination” argument for promoting Brazilian Chauvinism and Brazilian Ethno-Nationalists while opposing a Socialist version of MERCOSUR as well as oppose Socialist Geopolitics and even oppose a Geopolitical Planning of a hypothetical Socialist Brazil in LATAM and in most of the Third World.

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          9 months ago

          That is mildly infuriating how much the right-wing can despite self-determination at will and do geopolitics at will but Socialists and Communists are pratically prohibited to practice geopolitics nor even economical/political blocs because it is against “self-determination”…

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            9 months ago

            I’ve joined Lemmygrad thinking it would be just like r/TankieTheDeprogram is, but it seens to be even more liberalized than the liberalization of r/GenZedong on Reddit. Well, I am out of here, I just hope one day I will be able to find an actual socialist place online that is as socialist/communist as r/TankieTheDeprogram. And are not liberalized at all.

            I’ve seen Communists online who even say that South Korea and Taiwan have right to self-determination yet they oppose that West Germany had right to self-determination because they support that it was the GDR/DDR that should unified Germany, which goes against the self-determination of West Germany.