hey let’s see what the people who killed and buried hacker culture think should go in the jargon file!

If the spirit of the original Jargon file was to be a living document, alas, it failed to keep with the times.

Hackers at large have moved away from Lisp despite Paul Graham and other evangelists […]

Hackers also have moved away from academia at large, and 9-5 jobs at tech behemoths are more natural habitats for them, which also shaped the lingo. I mean, there’s a whole layer of slang usually pertinent to outsourcing agencies and to cubicle farms.

I can’t wait for the corporate-approved jargon file, with any hint of anti-capitalism replaced with fun words and quotes from billionaires to share as the soul leaves my body

So in order for the document to evolve, we need a system to determine consensus. Everyone who cares runs a program on their computer that joins the network and registers their intent. With each proposed change, a query goes out to the network, and it’s up to everyone on the network to say yea or nay to the proposal. With enough "yea"s, the document is updated.

…this is starting to sound like a blockchain, isn’t it.

for the absolute sake of fuck. coming soon: HackerDAO! collect 10xer tokens and finally prove to the junior devs why corporate gives you so many points to crunch on! vote on fun new jargon, but only if it’s crypto-related! surely you’re hacker enough to be on the pump side of this pump and dump!

  • Deborah@hachyderm.io
    7·
    1 year ago

    @self I like watching that thread piss on ESR for ruining the jargon file, when in general the oranges tend to *like* whatever garbage ESR says.

    • self@awful.systemsOPEnglish
      6·
      1 year ago

      exactly! almost everything proposed in the thread is basically ESR but more so too. it feels a lot like they’re shitting on him because it’s popular, while rebroadcasting his philosophy because it’s one of the major influences that led to the formulation of what hacker news thinks a hacker is

      • self@awful.systemsOPEnglish
        5·
        1 year ago

        (not to imply that shitting on esr because it’s popular makes it at all wrong; fuck esr, and fuck the corporate hacker culture he popularized)

        • Deborah@hachyderm.io
          5·
          1 year ago

          @self We just had a fight in my house over whether RMS is worse than ESR or vice versa. I think we settled on two people who are both overwhelmingly gross, like trying to decide if Jackson or Trump was a worse president. Why not both?

          • self@awful.systemsOPEnglish
            6·
            1 year ago

            the way I like to think of it is that any of the good of hacker culture definitely wasn’t encapsulated by the folks who fought tooth and nail to lead and appropriate it; nor was any of it driven forward by the early VCs who stole (literally, as taxpayer-funded research we all owned it) tech like Lisp machines and drove it all into the fucking ground creating the first AI bubble, destroying communities where knowledge was shared freely (and machines where it was assumed you had free access to source code) in search of a quick buck

            the good was in the community, as it has been in so many things venture capitalists have destroyed since. hacker culture’s first mistake was choosing to not be so vocally socialist that the corps would get scared; we’ve seen now how that ends, every time