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    8 months ago

    Okay look I get what we’re trying to say here but would it be problematic if I pointed out that Android is also running Linux?

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      8 months ago

      It’s a valid point, but unfortunately your non bullshit options are limited to replacing the OS with something like Graphene or Lineage.

      The powers that be REALLY want your data.

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        8 months ago

        I thought you could just use the Android open source project? I thought the tracking was mostly baked into Google’s flavor of Android not the open source product

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          I don’t know if a phone that uses the open source version as base. Usually they build off open source or google and add in all the manufacturer/carrier bloat. For me to get off One Plus’s built in OS I had to go through this whole process on their website to get the code to unlock the boot loader.

          I have lineage os as a replacement and it’s really cool. My mobile internet stopped working on it though :( my next phone is gonna roll with Graphene

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      8 months ago

      And lo, the Apocrypha were born, for they spoke the truth that no man dare admitt, lest they be marked an apostate.

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        8 months ago

        I use GNU/Linux, or as I’ve recently taken to calling it, GNU plus Linux btw

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          Same, on desktop and mobile. I don’t know if it’s funny or sad that a community called “linuxmemes” can’t tell the difference between Linux, GNU/Linux and Android.

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        I mean not technically… those products use a separent kernel that has its own development path away from the Linux kernel. Linux is just a compatible Unix kernel but I wouldn’t classify it as a Unix operating system since it diverges into its own thing. Android still uses the Linux kernel not some piece of code that they developed and not some commercial Unix product

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        Not if they don’t share any heritage with Unix. Osx is the only one that fits the bill there.

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          8 months ago

          It also counts in the other way: Apple licensed the UNIX™ trademark.

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        GNU is a recursive acronym for “GNU’s Not Unix!”,[6][12] chosen because GNU’s design is Unix-like, but differs from Unix by being free software and containing no Unix code.[6][13][14] Stallman chose the name by using various plays on words, including the song The Gnu.[4]: 45:30

        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GNU

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      See, this is why, yet again, Stallman was right: insisting on “GNU/Linux” is necessary in order to disambiguate between the fully-Free Software OS and bastardized half-proprietary stuff like Android.

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        8 months ago

        Exactly. Even in this community and in this post people keep mixing Linux, GNU/Linux and Android. It’s crazy that even people who use this operating system are confused. Almost always when they say Linux they really mean GNU/Linux. Linux Mint or Arch Linux are GNU/Linux. But Android isn’t and it doesn’t even use the mainline Linux kernel.

        The issue of freedom is a separate thing, because even most GNU/Linux distros contain proprietary software just like Android.

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      8 months ago

      I guess most ppl who are supporting the gnu/linux phone are the ones who want a similar apple like features like how the prism os had promised to provide.