Gretchen Whitmer responds to calls by some Democrats to vote āuncommittedā in Michiganās primary on Tuesday
Gretchen Whitmer, the Michigan governor, pushed back on calls to not vote for Joe Biden over his handling of the Israel-Gaza conflict, saying on Sunday that could help Trump get re-elected.
āItās important not to lose sight of the fact that any vote thatās not cast for Joe Biden supports a second Trump term,ā she said on Sunday during an interview on CNNās State of the Union. āA second Trump term would be devastating. Not just on fundamental rights, not just on our democracy here at home, but also when it comes to foreign policy. This was a man who promoted a Muslim ban.ā
Whitmer, who is a co-chair of Bidenās 2024 campaign, also said she wasnāt sure what to expect when it came to the protest vote.
Rashida Tlaib, a Democrat who is the only Palestinian-American serving in Congress, urged Democrats last week to vote āuncommittedā in Michiganās 27 February primary.
Hey bud, how about you not scream at someone for something they didnāt say? Making up strawmen and screaming at them isnāt going to convince anyone youre worth listening to, let alone convince them to actually to listen to anything you have to say.
Thereās a lot of that going around. A lot of us are justifiably pissed off at the Biden admin for funneling our tax dollars into a genocideā¦ but calling that out is just being met with a wave of āif you donāt vote Biden, youāre supporting Trump, which is even worse!ā whichā¦ no shit? We can be pissed off at Biden and simultaneously still willing to vote for him over Orange Hitler Those things arenāt mutually exclusive.
Then pick someone who says something like that to argue with. The person above is just screaming at someone because of something that no one in this thread said.
Hey bud.
How about you actually read what said, instead of repeating those āBiden Goodā macros you think are persuasive.
The problem here is that you seem to think any criticism of Biden is unwarranted because he is not as bad as Trump hypothetically will be.
And yes. At this point in time, it is hypothetical. Nobody here can predict whether or not Trump will win. Or if Biden will win.
Which is all entirely beside the point that people are protesting our current government - not our possible future governmentās support of something most of us find objectionable.
Saying ādonāt protest genocide because Trump will be worseā is a lazy excuse; and fundamentally defending genocide.
Do you support genocide? Do you think whatās happening in Gaza is good?
Do you think Palestinians should be eradicated as a culture and a people?
Because that, right here, right now, is what you are supporting.
Why do you support female genital mutilation? Huh how come youāre not responding? Is it because you love mutilating childrenās genitals that much? Why do you just love to torture children and maim them for life?
Oh hey look, itās not fun to argue with someone who argued against things you didnāt say.
Reread the part where i said not to put words in peopleās mouths and try again asshole.
Thatās amusing.
Yes Iām apposed to genital mutilation. Itās easy to say.
Youāre the one trying to make this about some thing itās not. People are protesting our current governmentās policy towards Israel. That is to say, theyāre protesting our current governmentās support of genocide.
This has nothing at all to do with the upcoming election; and telling people to shut up about it, or Trump might win (or implying it) is a good sign that maybe people find the current policy deeply unpopular.
And yes, what you are doing is in fact defending genocide. So which of us is an asshole here?
No, Iām pointing out that arguing with strawmen and putting words in peopleās mouths is dumb and childish, and like I said, you are, for repeatedly using strawman arguments. Try and not put words in peopleās mouths. Itās really really not complicated for most people over the age of 12.
saying āgenocide is badā is not a strawman.
Saying itās not about the election is not a strawman.
Saying arguments that Biden is better than trump is a cop out is not a strawman.
Saying people- myself included- are protesting the war in gaza is not about the election is a strawman.
I am not putting up a scarecrow to argue against. Nor am I putting up a sock puppet. Iām saying making the genocide in Gaza about the election is stupid. youāre (royal you) are telling me to shut up and vote for Biden. youāre attempting to change the topic of discussion into defending being upset at Biden. youāre getting pissed because people are upset about genocide. news flash: most reasonable people are upset by genocide.
No, Iām telling you to shut up and stop putting words in peoples mouths, and yet there you go again, claiming that I said anything about Biden or voting or genocide.
Literally all Iāve said this entire thread is to stop putting words in peopleās mouths and you just keep crying about me silencing your views on Gaza. Express your views, express them to people who say the opposite, so far thatās not the people youāve been replying to.