The Biden administration is close to approving the sale of as many as 50 American-made F-15 fighter jets to Israel, in a deal expected to be worth more than $18 billion, according to three people familiar with the matter.

The transaction, which would amount to the largest US foreign military sale to Israel since the country went to war with Hamas on October 7, comes as the administration is also expected to notify Congress soon of a large new sale of precision-guided munitions kits to Israel, the people said.

The new sales of some of the US’ most sophisticated weaponry underscore the extent to which the US continues to support Israel militarily, even as Biden administration officials criticize Israel’s operations in Gaza, which have killed more than 32,000 Palestinians since October, according to the Gaza ministry of health.

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    Why does Israel need precision-guided munitions? “Lob in the general direction of Gaza” seems to be precise enough for them

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      They probably aren’t getting all of this for Gaza. Bet my right hand it’s for when shit hits the fan (Taiwan, Russia invading further) and the countries around them decide to fuck them up since US would be busy elsewhere.

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    It’s okay guys, he’s going to build the wall pier and say Bibi is a meany under his breath in a leaked back room conversation. He literally can’t do anything else, he’s only the president.

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    With Biden giving away 1800 bunker buster bombs they just have them piling up and can’t Genocide quickly enough! Now they can finally chip away at that supply by throwing fifty 2000 pound bombs at the same time!

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      Boeing kept knowledgeable and skilled people around for their weapons. It’s their commercial production that they cut the legs out from under for more profit.

      Slaughtering people? We need the best of the best. Keeping people safe? Cut those goddamn costs.

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    So Americans of Lemmy: how’s it feel knowing you’re committing genocide literally right now

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      Terrible. If it were up to this one, those Eagles would be landing in Kyiv instead but we are at the mercy of some evil shitheels and voting doesn’t do much.

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      The wierdest part is all the other Americans telling me I have to go out and vote for genocide because the other guy might be able to genocide too. Its like my countrymen have one shared braincell and they borrowed it from CNN.

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        The other guy will dismantle democracy while doing a genocide. So yeah, short of overthrowing the government, voting for a genocidal fossil is the best we got.

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        might be able to genocide too will genocide even harder and louder

        Fixed that for you. Vote for who you want, but don’t pretend that there’s any question about Trump’s stance on the issue. He’s publicly called for the final solution to be applied to Palestinians, and people in his party are telling their supporters that they think Gaza should be nuked like Nagasaki.

        If Trump narrowly wins the election and the Palestinians suffer even more, wouldn’t you feel the slightest bit guilty for staying home?

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          Do you want the government to commit genocide or do you want to government to commit genocide but also to some of the American people? Shit sucks either way but I can’t vote for someone who might send members of my family to camps.

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          The question isn’t Trumps stance the question is will the Democrats have enough votes to throw a wrench in it. Same way it worked with immigration. There been little changes in border policy, agencies, and agents between presidencies yet the Democrats fought hard against Trumps policy, then stopped fighting when Biden was in charge. Seems to me democrats are unwilling to fight their own party on issues they would gladly fight the other party for. No one questions what Trump wants. We question his ability to do it. Like the border wall he couldn’t build much of. Last I checked Bidens built more length of border wall than Trump has.

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        What do you mean might? Do you have any doubt? Does the fact him saying that he will and wants to do it faster not mean anything to you? I’m okay with you being angry at the general shittiness of the situation, but why lie about Trump’s support of Israel’s genocide? I don’t understand why you’re not honest about that. The Republican politicians are literally saying they want to Nuke Gaza, and you’re sitting here saying you don’t know if it’s the same or worse?

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          The question isn’t Trumps stance the question is will the Democrats have enough votes to throw a wrench in it. Same way it worked with immigration. There been little changes in border policy, agencies, and agents between presidencies yet the Democrats fought hard against Trumps policy, then stopped fighting when Biden was in charge. Seems to me democrats are unwilling to fight their own party on issues they would gladly fight the other party for. No one questions what Trump wants. We question his ability to do it. Like the border wall he couldn’t build much of. Last I checked Bidens built more length of border wall than Trump has. The presidency isn’t a dictatorship. And Bidens already used EOs to arm Israel so at worst he could do the same as Biden if someone actually stood up to him.

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            Well that’s just the worst logic I’ve ever heard in my life. You care so much about stopping the genocide in Palestine that you prefer a person who wants to kill more Palestinians on the off chance the Democrats can stop him after he’s elected. That’s just bonkers.

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              At least one way we have a chance at stopping it.

              But go ahead and tell us one more time about how Next Time you will work with us and this time we just need to work with you this one more time.

              Heard that before.

              I have an idea, how about you guys work with us this time around?

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              Your logic is to not try and stop a genocide at all. My logic is to vote against all genociders, it’s not like im voting for Trump, I don’t prefer him at all. Im voting down ballot for every candidtae that stands against the genocide. You’re voting for guy thats funding it. One of us is trying to stop it and the other is justifying voting for funding it. That necessarily makes you a genocide apologist.

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      I’d move to another country, but I’m pretty sure nobody would take me.

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      Pretty whatever. Excuse me as I continue to doom scroll on my slave labor produced phone.

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          Nah, thoughts and prayers should be plenty. Maybe they wouldn’t need an iron dome if they weren’t constantly being insufferable belligerents.

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              They should have considered the children before they went all in on bombing and starving other people’s kids

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                So you are ok with children dying as long as they are the “right” children?

                I’m going to have to ask you to really think about that view.

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                  If I make horrible decisions my kid will suffer the consequences. That’s why I don’t go around doing horrific crimes.

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    Oh hey, it’s that guy who was frustrated with bibi and who felt the plight of the Palestinian people supposedly. I wonder if he felt sad while greenlighting this.

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    Israel is surrounded by a burgeoning bevy of enemies. The jets are for their defense against Iran and others.

    I condemn the Biden administration’s indiscriminate support of Israel.

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      If recent history is our guide, these jets will be immediately used to murder civilians if they attempt to get food or medicine from aid stations.

      Israel is completely invested in genocide at the moment. They don’t need our help to defend from foreign nations. They already have everything they need for that, yet are using it all to commit genocide. Every single thing we send them right now is being used for genocide.

      We get absolutely nothing in return for spending billions a year on Israel. Nothing. They use absolutely everything we send them to commit atrocities. Why are we sending them anything at all? We need to get out of this insane, valueless, one-sided relationship.

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        If by “we” you mean America then I would say that America gets an ally right in the heart of the Arab world, which is frequently opposed to American ideologies. The strategic location is enough to justify the American government’s investment in Israel because it facilitates the US foreign policy, for better or for worse.

        I’m not defending their’s or Israel’s actions. I’d just like to remind everyone that the whole region is tense and complex. It has always been. Oversimplification of the issues leads to even more conflict, in my opinion.

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          Israel does not offer the U.S. any strategic advantage in the middle east at all. In addition to carriers in the Med at all times, multiple NATO members like Greece and Turkey are right there in the area. We do not need Israel at all. Not even a little.

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              What tangible military benefit has the US received from Israel beyond using it as a base in the middle east?

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                We don’t even use it as a base. We have something like 18 bases in varying other countries in the Middle East.

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                That’s exactly my point. Israel is a US military base, from which it conducts a variety of operations in the region. It is very valuable to US foreign policy.

                Unfortunately the Biden administration has accepted that sponsoring genocide is a fair price to pay in exchange for that advantageous position in the middle east.

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                  No it isn’t. It’s just straight up not a base. Stop spreading this lie.

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              I’m right there with you. Is someone disgusted by what Israel is doing, Lemmy is a cesspool of propaganda sometimes.