…but seriously, it uses Debian as a base for its upstream packages instead of Ubuntu. They’re very similar and you won’t notice a difference.
I’ll disagree and suggest to go with the latest release of the normal (Ubuntu-based) Mint instead. I prefer Debian over Ubuntu, but there’s realistically little difference. And if you’re just getting into the Linux world, you’ll want to be using what’s used by most people in case you run into problems and want to follow written instructions or ask for support.
I mean kinda, but there are still some software and version differences that can make some stuff behave differently. my brother has been tinkering with chromebook with touch screen. and he hasn’t found a distro yet where everything works. in some distros sound doesn’t work, in some touchscreen doesn’t work, in some keyboard doesn’t work etc.
so while the experience is mostly same there are still some differences, they do show up easier with odd hardware though
Mint & popOS are both Debian tree distros and Ubuntu derivatives without the snap cruft.
They work fine for gaming in my experience as any linux native game is always tested against ubuntu and I’ve had no issues with Steam/proton for windows games.
No EAC anti cheat compatability for Linux of any flavour of course.
I’ve been considering putting Mint on my system, then adding the new version of Unity that Canonical doesn’t contribute to. Last time I used Linux was when Ubuntu finally had Unity working well and I really miss the HUD thing. Tapping alt to search the menus for the tool I wanted in Gimp was very nice.
I have no idea. I wound up removing Linux from my system years ago due to Pulse/ALSA problems and going back to Windows. Not willing to pay a subscription for extended Win10 support, and I won’t touch 11, so I’m looking at moving back to Linux. Especially since audio is supposed to be better now.
I’m used to gnome, and I currently tried out garuda. It’s a tad weird as there’s no app bar anywhere with “running apps”. If I execute it again it just starts a new one. Which is strange behaviour.
It works quite well for what it should do, but I’m feeling a bit lost in it. It also feels if I’d want to do something else ( like coding ) that it wouldn’t be very intuitive.
The nobara gnome screenshot looks similar ( no app drawer ). Are you running it in gnome or kde/official?
you can change that from gnome tweaks I believe. and I have gnome underneath but I use i3. i used to have just fedora with just the i3 using fedora installer but it got a bug of some kind that I just didn’t get the propiertary nvidia drivers to work no matter what I did
It isn’t. But they are pushing it more aggressively.
The latest release will tell you it can’t even open .deb files anymore. The Ubuntu store will load indefinitely and not be able to install it. ( read it in a blog post ).
And it’s opening deb files in archive manager by default rather than the software centre.
Even if it is just a bug. It is one they are refusing to fix ( and one that I can’t imagine being difficult to solve ).
It still works over CLI for now, which is how I usually install deb’s. But if I have to go online to download all kinds of debs it feels like I’m back in the 90s windows downloading a bunch of exe’s I no have to manage myself.
It’s more of a statement against Ubuntu and how canonical is handling the snap packages. Maybe it won’t be so easy to disable it in the future. Or maybe apt will barely be able to install anything anymore if you disable snap since that seems to be all they went you to run.
In any case. I don’t really like the direction they’re headed, and I’d rather not have to distro hop in two years because canonical decide to make snap mandatory.
Snap has not worked out well for me in the past :(.
We’re in a thread about Windows malfeasance and that’s what the Windows users say about their ad-ridden trash heap of an OS. Why would we tolerate the same behavior just because it is on top of a Linux kernel?
I switched over a year ago. Love it.
I can’t make my mind up over a distro tbh.
I’ve used Ubuntu for a long time, but I absolutely hate snap packages.
Doubting between endeavoros, garuda and popos. Imnsure they’re all viable, though my main experience has been with apt and Debian based distros
Linux Mint Debian Edition
How does the Debian edition differ from normal mint?
It’s Debian instead of normal mint.
…but seriously, it uses Debian as a base for its upstream packages instead of Ubuntu. They’re very similar and you won’t notice a difference.
I’ll disagree and suggest to go with the latest release of the normal (Ubuntu-based) Mint instead. I prefer Debian over Ubuntu, but there’s realistically little difference. And if you’re just getting into the Linux world, you’ll want to be using what’s used by most people in case you run into problems and want to follow written instructions or ask for support.
I agree, I don’t suggest newbies run less popular distros. Overcoming the learning curve is easier when you have lots of documentation and support.
based on upstream debian instead of ubuntu
It doesn’t matter, they all install the same thing. Just pick whatever your friendly neighbour uses.
I mean kinda, but there are still some software and version differences that can make some stuff behave differently. my brother has been tinkering with chromebook with touch screen. and he hasn’t found a distro yet where everything works. in some distros sound doesn’t work, in some touchscreen doesn’t work, in some keyboard doesn’t work etc.
so while the experience is mostly same there are still some differences, they do show up easier with odd hardware though
Mint & popOS are both Debian tree distros and Ubuntu derivatives without the snap cruft.
They work fine for gaming in my experience as any linux native game is always tested against ubuntu and I’ve had no issues with Steam/proton for windows games.
No EAC anti cheat compatability for Linux of any flavour of course.
If it’s mostly for gaming you should che k out BazziteOS
Why not good old Mint?
I’ve been considering putting Mint on my system, then adding the new version of Unity that Canonical doesn’t contribute to. Last time I used Linux was when Ubuntu finally had Unity working well and I really miss the HUD thing. Tapping alt to search the menus for the tool I wanted in Gimp was very nice.
Dont you have to reinstall mint if you want to install os updates?
No. Both day to day patches and major upgrades are done through the update manager app
I think they have an automated script that does it now?
GUI is primary, a few clicks in the same app that you do your normal day to day updates in when a major release comes out.
There is a command line version but the gui is a doddle, and there’s no driving reason to use the CLI - it’s a distro aimed at beginners
I have no idea. I wound up removing Linux from my system years ago due to Pulse/ALSA problems and going back to Windows. Not willing to pay a subscription for extended Win10 support, and I won’t touch 11, so I’m looking at moving back to Linux. Especially since audio is supposed to be better now.
With 24 It let’s me choose Debian instead of snap for some apps at least.
if you want easy gaming with fast set up try nobara. it’s fedora based I really like it
I’m used to gnome, and I currently tried out garuda. It’s a tad weird as there’s no app bar anywhere with “running apps”. If I execute it again it just starts a new one. Which is strange behaviour.
It works quite well for what it should do, but I’m feeling a bit lost in it. It also feels if I’d want to do something else ( like coding ) that it wouldn’t be very intuitive.
The nobara gnome screenshot looks similar ( no app drawer ). Are you running it in gnome or kde/official?
you can change that from gnome tweaks I believe. and I have gnome underneath but I use i3. i used to have just fedora with just the i3 using fedora installer but it got a bug of some kind that I just didn’t get the propiertary nvidia drivers to work no matter what I did
I’m currently using Endeavouros (btw) but Fedora is a solid distro as well.
Used it for years until just recently when I got a new laptop and decided to give managed Arch a go
I’ve had great experiences with garuda. Heavily underrated distro.
It’s not that hard to disable snap.
It isn’t. But they are pushing it more aggressively. The latest release will tell you it can’t even open .deb files anymore. The Ubuntu store will load indefinitely and not be able to install it. ( read it in a blog post ). And it’s opening deb files in archive manager by default rather than the software centre.
Even if it is just a bug. It is one they are refusing to fix ( and one that I can’t imagine being difficult to solve ).
It still works over CLI for now, which is how I usually install deb’s. But if I have to go online to download all kinds of debs it feels like I’m back in the 90s windows downloading a bunch of exe’s I no have to manage myself.
It’s more of a statement against Ubuntu and how canonical is handling the snap packages. Maybe it won’t be so easy to disable it in the future. Or maybe apt will barely be able to install anything anymore if you disable snap since that seems to be all they went you to run.
In any case. I don’t really like the direction they’re headed, and I’d rather not have to distro hop in two years because canonical decide to make snap mandatory.
Snap has not worked out well for me in the past :(.
I use Kubuntu, and it never pushed snaps to me, and disabling them took 5 mins.
We’re in a thread about Windows malfeasance and that’s what the Windows users say about their ad-ridden trash heap of an OS. Why would we tolerate the same behavior just because it is on top of a Linux kernel?