It is a valid question. I think ozmas antics among others have worn out a lot of generosity and goodwill on many peoples parts. I had a good laugh when Ozma themselves responded elsewhere that they post propaganda to spark debate. Honestly the main debate I’d seen on many of their posts was if they were genuine. But just an easily manipulable tool. Or if they genuinely had malicious desire such a accelerationism trying to get as many people as possible hurt. Though there’s always the third option. Kind of like Shapiro and aoc. I’m not 100% sure that ozma doesn’t just have the hots for Biden.
Liberals don’t look for truth, they seek confirmation bias. The exact same thing republicans do.
Liberals wont hold Biden accountable, someone has to do it. If trump were doing the exact same things Biden is doing right now, and he will, democrats would be in an uproar.
I think it’s very telling that your statement of support was that it’s not technically incorrect. Though I honestly do sympathize with you a little bit. It’s hard to police a lot of this b*******. Thankfully in this instance it looks like the community definitely stepped up hard for it.
Frankly there’s almost nothing of less value for discussion than polls. This far in advance they’re rather meaningless. And this one’s not telling us much we didn’t already know. People are terrifyingly ignorant. The fact that one of the best presidents of the last 50 years ( though perhaps not consequential. Carter) is technically the lowest ranked in popularity. Makes that glaringly clear.
Unfortunately though there isn’t much that can really be done by mods with regards to someone being annoying and beating a dead horse into the dirt. Out of some need to gain attention or push some false narrative.
Frankly I don’t think that’s a solution either. As I posted earlier. There really isn’t much here for a mod team to sink their teeth into. This really is much more the realm of the community policing itself. Which it did with a Vengeance in this case.
Having a weird fetish or an obsession is not a bannable offense. And there could be actual polls worth discussing at some point. To be clear I would be just as annoyed with anyone else obsessively virtue signaling about other things as well. Like some Linux advocates. And I say that as a heavy user myself. I think people are just getting tired of scrolling and seeing ozmas multiple daily “Biden bad” posts. Generally linking to a specious poll. Or hyperbolic opinion piece not worth discussing. All in furtherance of pushing a message/agenda.
It’s especially weird too. Because I do see them post other things that are often more reasonable. As long as it’s about anything other than Biden and Israel.
Looking solely at approval rating (% of people saying ‘I approve!’).
If you look at DISAPPROVAL rating (% of people saying ‘I disapprove’) he comes across MARGINALLY better.
https://www.presidency.ucsb.edu/statistics/data/final-presidential-job-approval-ratings
Notables:
Truman - 56%
Nixon - 66%
Carter - 55%
W. Bush - 61%
Trump - 62%
Biden? 62%
https://www.pewresearch.org/politics/2024/04/24/joe-bidens-approval-ratings/
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It is a valid question. I think ozmas antics among others have worn out a lot of generosity and goodwill on many peoples parts. I had a good laugh when Ozma themselves responded elsewhere that they post propaganda to spark debate. Honestly the main debate I’d seen on many of their posts was if they were genuine. But just an easily manipulable tool. Or if they genuinely had malicious desire such a accelerationism trying to get as many people as possible hurt. Though there’s always the third option. Kind of like Shapiro and aoc. I’m not 100% sure that ozma doesn’t just have the hots for Biden.
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Personal attacks for simply posting political articles in a politics sub? Tsk tsk
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So it’s propaganda when pointing out Biden is another run of the mill Republican?
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Liberals don’t look for truth, they seek confirmation bias. The exact same thing republicans do.
Liberals wont hold Biden accountable, someone has to do it. If trump were doing the exact same things Biden is doing right now, and he will, democrats would be in an uproar.
Provide content worth discussing. And you will not become a subject of the discussion. Behave obsessively and people will notice.
Best take. They want Biden’s feet.
The mods aren’t your pet censors.
You just want an enforced echo chamber where things you don’t want anyone to read are verboten.
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It’s almost as though I don’t like punching left.
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“Propaganda” is what you call stuff people to your left say.
All you do is punch left while screaming that you’re punching right.
“Nuance” is when everything you want the mods to censor for you is “propaganda”.
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As far as you’re concerned, anything to your left is propaganda that you want immediately censored forever.
I have only one account on world, and one on nsfw that doesn’t do politics at all. That’s it, that’s all. I have zero sockpuppet accounts.
Technically, it’s not incorrect and it’s valuable for people to see what the opposition is saying, we aren’t running an echo chamber.
I think it’s very telling that your statement of support was that it’s not technically incorrect. Though I honestly do sympathize with you a little bit. It’s hard to police a lot of this b*******. Thankfully in this instance it looks like the community definitely stepped up hard for it.
Frankly there’s almost nothing of less value for discussion than polls. This far in advance they’re rather meaningless. And this one’s not telling us much we didn’t already know. People are terrifyingly ignorant. The fact that one of the best presidents of the last 50 years ( though perhaps not consequential. Carter) is technically the lowest ranked in popularity. Makes that glaringly clear.
Unfortunately though there isn’t much that can really be done by mods with regards to someone being annoying and beating a dead horse into the dirt. Out of some need to gain attention or push some false narrative.
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Could we have a weekly polls megathread? Though that likely just pushes more work into the mod team.
I think what we have today is good, the community speaks, and the mods hopefully don’t burn out.
Mods: you’re doing great.
Frankly I don’t think that’s a solution either. As I posted earlier. There really isn’t much here for a mod team to sink their teeth into. This really is much more the realm of the community policing itself. Which it did with a Vengeance in this case.
Having a weird fetish or an obsession is not a bannable offense. And there could be actual polls worth discussing at some point. To be clear I would be just as annoyed with anyone else obsessively virtue signaling about other things as well. Like some Linux advocates. And I say that as a heavy user myself. I think people are just getting tired of scrolling and seeing ozmas multiple daily “Biden bad” posts. Generally linking to a specious poll. Or hyperbolic opinion piece not worth discussing. All in furtherance of pushing a message/agenda.
It’s especially weird too. Because I do see them post other things that are often more reasonable. As long as it’s about anything other than Biden and Israel.
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The statistic itself lacks nuance and context, that’s where the downvotes and comments come in.
It doesn’t do anyone any good to pretend everything is hunky dory for Biden when it very clearly is not.
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