• Garbanzo@lemmy.world
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    2 months ago

    That’s a valid point. I don’t take anything the police or courts say at face value, but does anyone dispute that Xandan is in prison for being a violent piece of shit?

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      2 months ago

      Probably Xandan. I’m not familiar at all with the case but I know the state thinks in every case every accused person is guilty and therefore we shouldn’t care about their human rights any longer because they are forfeit.

      But the reality is that we’re all deserving of rights and basic human decency, even the worst offenders, because treating people who committed horrific crimes horribly does nothing to undo those crimes and multiplies them, and it allows anyone who has been framed for doing something awful to be treated the same way even if you think “an eye for an eye” barbary is any way to solve things, which I do not.

      There are many reasons why inhumane treatment of prisoners is wrong, and the chance that the person is actually innocent is only one of those.

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        2 months ago

        I agree, I’m just not interested in hearing about it from someone who is entirely focused on how bad it is for them personally unless they’re claiming to be innocent or they’re owning their mistakes