• christophski@feddit.uk
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    6 months ago

    Who the fuck is asking for this? Literally nobody, the government is just doing whatever they want at this point

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      Nobody is asking for it, but that’s not the purpose: the purpose is to stir up opposition.

      I suspect a significant portion of the population will be indifferent to the proposal. At best, they’ll shrug and say, ‘Sure, makes sense if that’s what’s needed,’ without bothering to think it through fully.

      More liberally minded people react with justified opposition to the proposal. At that point, the Conservatives will rally the indifferent against ‘the woke’. They hope to gain support by convincing people they have a common enemy.

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      Thank you. I really needed a good way to describe what i was seeing the current election cicle.

      All these weird promises, bad ideas, sudden legislations i am seeing around are so detached from the problems i witness. Every time i see an ad for a party i want to vote for em less. Some of it even feels like it laughing in my face and taking the piss at us.

      They are just doing what they want at this point!

      Thank you!

      Edit: This rant has little to do on the subject of sex education in the uk.

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        Inventing controversial non-solutions to non-problems in order to avoid discussing solutions to real problems that they themselves have caused or worsened, which would all, in some way, involve giving money to non-rich people or spending money on non-rich people, which they see as an egregious waste of money.

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        There’s basically a hierarchy in political decision making.

        1. Doing things that are good for the country.
        2. Doing things that voters want.
        3. Doing things your party wants.

        1 should be the reason you get into politics in the first place because you want to make the world a better place. 2 is also super important, we live in a democracy and if you don’t give people some of what they want you’re not doing your job. 3 is basically day to day politicking. You throw red meat to members of the party so they continue to support you.

        The Tory party is now so up their own arses that they only do 3 in the hope that they won’t tear themselves apart. This is some random anti-woke bullshit, that will mean it’s harder to catch and prevent child abuse, and kids can’t learn basic biology. And it doesn’t even appeal to what’s left of their fanbase.

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          it’s not even really 3 - i’d say we’re at 4 - inventing problems that don’t exist to avoid doing 1 and 2

          these aren’t even things their party wants - they don’t really care… they just need to distract from the mess they’ve created to avoid fixing it for another election cycle

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            Or at 5 - salting the earth to make 1, 2 & 3 much, much harder for Labour.

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      Certain parents are asking for this but the government is dumb/opportunistic for listening to them. Also seems strange to have a blanket ban when the complaints I’ve heard on the radio are about the teaching resources being used. Suspect that a blanket ban is an easier headline to understand for the people they want to pander to.

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        I had one of those parents at my work once.

        “These bloody schools want to teach 5 year olds about sex. Only parents should be allowed to choose what and when kids learn about this stuff”.
        Fantastic mate. So your teaching method will be “avoid the subject”, then “vague religious murmurings” then finally “son learns about love and consent on his own from 4chan”

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          My wife used to teach primary school in Scotland and the type of sex education they get before 9 is pretty simple consent stuff. The lesson would use an anodyne example like making a cup of tea: “If someone asks for a cup of tea it is nice to make it for them but making a cup of tea for someone when they don’t want it is not respecting their wishes/consent.”

          I believe there was also a lesson about how people don’t need to like things stereotypically associated with the different sexes. For example girls can like football; boys can like the colour pink. That kind of thing.

          Despite the cirriculum being those kinds of things she still had certain parents opting out 🤷

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            Now that I remember it, the co-workers exact words were “they want to give our kids sex lessons”.