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It’s sad but I am considering withdrawing myself from the party I am a member of. It’s not that I hate them or that anything noteworthy happened between us but I feel like there are lots of things I want to do but have no room for within the party structure. Only problem is, is that I don’t know what to do instead.
I also got a fast lane ticket to see the sad state of the Western left as one of the first suggestions I got for joining another org was one that basically goes CHINA BAD CHINA BAD CHINA BAD
You get used to it.
I can see that. PVDA-PTB seem to be too focused on reform to me, although I still think they are the best option and that they have some revolutionary ideas. It’s possible to make them more revolutionary IMO.
I will say I kinda feel the same about BIJ1. I have been toying with the idea of joining NCPN. I kinda feel like BIJ1 can never become a big party and never become the vanguard. The fact that it’s such a big tent party doesn’t help. I like the idea of intersectionality and think that every communist org should include that in their ideals, but for BIJ1 I feel like that’s one of the only things that bind the party together. There’s no coherent leftism in BIJ1 since there’s people from all sorts of leftist movements. We call ourselves a extraparliamentary party but I see nothing of that. I’ve only seen more extraparliamentary work recently but that’s because we’re not in parliament or the municipal council anymore. There wasn’t even a BIJ1 delegation at 1st of May for fuck’s sake. But I hope I can help steer the party more towards Marxism-Leninism and hope I can make them work with other leftist parties more and focus more on extraparliamentary politics. But it’s hrd since I’m just one person, and the other ML’s I know from BIJ1 have left the party now.
I could join BIJ1 and we could steer them towards ML together
No, no entryism.
It’s different, when it’s an already socialist organisation with MLs already present in the organisation It will not be so hard to steer them the right way
I disagree. PVDA-PTB toes a fine line, tbh.
Besides, reform is good to give your working-class constituency victories; the communist movement is not as strong as it once was.
As long as revolution is the main goal, then movement-building and reform here and there are fine.
I’m not against reform and I support PVDA-PTB. I just hope that revolution is the main goal of PVDA-PTB. Maybe I’ll ask if I ever come across an inportant person inside PVDA-PTB
I recall you mentioning something about the party being too election-focused, is this related?
Partly yes. I mean, I get that it’s elections and that it is important. But at the same time the default plan for now fell back to asking people to vote for us and that’s not my thing I guess.
Maybe when the election season is over things will get better. Maybe we get elected and, God forbid, have to default back to electoral politics.
Other things that bug me are mainly personal things. I have a busy live with all kinds of things, work included and I don’t always have the time to show up to last minute changed plans. Sometimes I get passive agressive remarks about that and I have an issue with that.
We’ll see how it goes. The alternatives mentioned so far are trotskyist or anarchist orgs and I’m not even thinking about doing that lol.
understandable on both counts, good luck
If you’re running candidates, and you’re a political party, you should ask people to vote for you.