• jeffw@lemmy.worldOP
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      7 months ago

      Eh, not sure that’s what the article is getting at. It’s more so that Jews have been persecuted and don’t want to give up their land… but they don’t support how Bibi has gone about everything

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          7 months ago

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          This.

          But also a bit of awkward silence, as a european who’s grandparents, when I think about it retroactively, suspiciously often bashed jews as part of a casual conversation, and who’s grandparents used to utter a german word here or there, despite not living anywhere near germany or austria, oh jesus christ, am I a nazi descendant? 😮

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        7 months ago

        Not at all. Even more “left” israelis are throwing a hissy fit this week when Spain, Ireland and Norway recognised Palestine. They all want to keep expanding the Lebensraum, not just “keep their land”.

        Israel’s Lapid: Recognition of Palestinian state ‘unprecedented political failure’

        The move is “disgraceful”, he added, saying it was the product of a “crisis”, in reference to the policies of Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu’s government.

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            Sorry sir posting MondoWeiss is illegal here because they are “Anti Zionist” which is literally worse than the Nazis.

            Fine quotes from the article

            For many years, this liberal, leftist image served to mask the systemic destruction the kibbutzim were part of. But now, the masks are falling. In a long interview in Haaretz, the secretary general of the Kibbutz movement, Nir Meir, who has been heading it for nine years, says it’s time to drop that leftist pretense. “The right[wing] is correct”:

            “The settlers aren’t wrong. The right is correct: That is the way to seize and hold land, and their claim that, any place we Israelis leave, the Arabs will come in our place, is correct. The right is also correct in its path: It’s by settlement and only by settlement that sovereignty can be imposed. The debate is whether sovereignty should be imposed. The settlements claim that they are the successors to Kibbutz Hanita [on the Lebanon border], because, just as in the Tower and Stockade days [a method of establishing new settlements during the period of the British Mandate], you [need to] conquer hill after hill without consideration for the law and you create facts on the ground. They [the settlers] learned from us how to settle and seize land. The argument with them is not about the way or the method, but about the intention and the goal.”