• GlueBear [they/them] @lemmygrad.ml
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    29 days ago

    Not a fan of litmus tests but I can totally understand where their supporters are coming from.

    Sometimes you just have to ask: do you think the Haitians were wrong to rebel against their masters?

    Any self respecting ML/anti-racist should be able to answer “no.”

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      29 days ago

      Agreed, Norman Finkelstein’s words regarding William Lloyd Garrison, and Nat Turner’s rebellion (a slave revolt that- unlike Hamas which was actually incredibly humane and principled if you ask me, actually went “kill all whites”) sum it all up perfectly for me. When people are placed in such inhumane conditions, when they are dehumanized to such an extent, this is the inevitable result- and I don’t think there is any place for condemnation, of the Haitians, or Hamas, or Nat Turner- and neither the Haitians nor Hamas went anywhere near as far as Nat Turner did.

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          The reason why wypipo stopped “believing” (or rather, telling themselves- blatant denial) that slaves liked what they were experiencing, you mean.

          Not even back then, were they quite that ignorant or brainwashed. The average white person then, as it still remains now, would have been horrified at even the prospect of receiving a fraction of the abuse and dehumanization they inflicted on blacks (or other non-white peoples).

          Most wypipo then were willfully deluded, and also just plain evil. That’s the simple facts of it- they weren’t outright braindead (such narratives, that they genuinely thought slaves “liked” their conditions, paints them in a better light than they deserve).