• sabin@lemmy.world
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    17 days ago

    Any argument I make stands for both sides? Then doesn’t that make you a hypocrite for disagreeing with the sentiment.

    I am saying jews should have some right to exist inside Israel. Palestinian leadership wants them all dead/gone. From the river to the sea doesn’t mean “lets share the land” in case you didn’t know.

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      17 days ago

      Uhm. Your last paragraph is wrong.

      That’s Hamas. Who wouldn’t have nearly as much power if Netanyahu didn’t ensure they have the funds necessary to pose a semi-credible political entity… over a decade ago… specifically to disrupt Palestinian statehood and independence.

      So, once again: Zionist’s are militantly opposed to Palestinian statehood, your argument is a bullshit red herring because Israel already has that and is currently the one committing fucking genocide to see that Palestinians never get it.

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        17 days ago

        The last paragraph is not at all wrong. Lots of people other than Hamas want Israel to completely cease existing as a state. If you disagree with the sentiment that Israel should be able to have SOME land (and by extension the fact that chants like “from the river to the sea” are antisemetic) then you yourself are one of them.

        Hamas was the official party recognized by Palestinian voters. If you have an issue with Israel acquiescing to their demands in order to maintain some sense of stability then you have no right to suggest they intentionally tried to sabotage relations.

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          17 days ago

          Hamas was recognized by plurality vote (and substantially less than a majority,) in 2006- over fifteen years ago.

          Of the people that would be eligible to have voted in ‘23, less than half of them were even able to votein ‘06.

          Nice try at painting Hamas as democratic.

          And once again you are fucking defending a sovereign state that is committing genocide for the sole purpose of- a state that already has that sovereignty you seem to believe they don’t.

          It’s patently obvious that you are full of bullshit. Are you really saying that some Palestinians being extremists justified the genocide Israel is currently committing?

          Are you really trying to say that Israel has the right to exist- and indeed are a sovereign state, but that Palestinians don’t? Because Israel is the one actively committing genocide, and has denied Palestinians representation for over 70 years, and whose current elected government is actively ensuring can never have representation.

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      17 days ago

      From the river to the sea doesn’t mean “lets share the land” in case you didn’t know.

      Likud Party knows!